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09-16-2018 , 03:52 PM
Hello, I think all streets here are fairly standard. Flop could be a bet or a check. Against who I think is a reg I opt to check back flop. He 2/3rds turn which is suspicious but Im not going anywhere yet.

River he checks, and this is where my question is. Was going for value too thin? What a fkn nit to show up with aces here. But obv if hes constructing his ranges like this its an ez ck back. But against population what do you guys think??

PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.47 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 26)
SB: 112.91 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 35)
BB: 128.54 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 113.63 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 88.89 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, CO calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 11.6 BB, fold

Flop: (30.9 BB, 2 players) 4 Q 8
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (30.9 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River: (70.9 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 41.72 BB, BB calls 41.72 BB

Hero shows A Q (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 8%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
(Pre 92%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%)
BB wins 151.84 BB
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09-16-2018 , 06:31 PM
Seems fine. If anything you could maybe size smaller on the river bet.
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09-16-2018 , 08:29 PM
I don't play 100NLz, but I think I'd fold to the squeeze. AQs is a standard call, but I'm not sure about AQo.

Post-flop looks very good. Optimal river size probably depends on how much you think he'll call with JJ/TT. His actual hand is a big surprise.
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09-16-2018 , 10:14 PM
I don't like any of it. You have tptk with an spr under 3. Once bb checks to you, you should bet! This is a connected, 2 tone board. Villain could have anything from AKss to T9ss or any other semi good hand, especially when he checks the flop. You need to charge draws and not let one pair or fd/sd hands overtake you for free. Ott, nothing changes. Bet again. Otr slow down.
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09-16-2018 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I don't play 100NLz, but I think I'd fold to the squeeze. AQs is a standard call, but I'm not sure about AQo.

Post-flop looks very good. Optimal river size probably depends on how much you think he'll call with JJ/TT. His actual hand is a big surprise.
Totally agree..

AQo is a bit too loose to call a Squeeze, but at the NL100 you must have wanted to exploit some leak, maybe?

If yes, than you played your hand really well, but the size was high on the river to get called by any under pair like TT-JJ.. So, by betting here you are searching for him to fold AK and get called by KQs, and is not that many combos.. And this is what happens when you use this size.. and some good players will fold KQs here for this size, what ins't good when we have a hand like yours..

In other hand, by betting small you can get to be bluffed here..

Really though spot..


If you didn't exploit nothing and this is how you balance your range, I'm always checking behind the river..

QQ+ here will almost never bet this river because he wants you to bluff your missed draws and get you to value bet your QXs..
But truth be told, the villains checking the flop is waaaay too risk and passive..
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09-16-2018 , 10:23 PM
I really like postflop but fold preflop
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09-16-2018 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTRACURRY
Totally agree..

AQo is a bit too loose to call a Squeeze, but at the NL100 you must have wanted to exploit some leak, maybe?

If yes, than you played your hand really well, but the size was high on the river to get called by any under pair like TT-JJ.. So, by betting here you are searching for him to fold AK and get called by KQs, and is not that many combos.. And this is what happens when you use this size.. and some good players will fold KQs here for this size, what ins't good when we have a hand like yours..

In other hand, by betting small you can get to be bluffed here..

Really though spot..


If you didn't exploit nothing and this is how you balance your range, I'm always checking behind the river..

QQ+ here will almost never bet this river because he wants you to bluff your missed draws and get you to value bet your QXs..
But truth be told, the villains checking the flop is waaaay too risk and passive..
No way you can check this river. AA has 3 combos, KK has 6 combos and QQ has 1. TT and JJ have 12 combos by themselves not to mention KQs and QJs we get value from
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09-17-2018 , 03:43 AM
You need to shove river or check if you don't think you can vbet for this size. You want to avoid facing a raise with bluffcatchers.
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09-17-2018 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
No way you can check this river. AA has 3 combos, KK has 6 combos and QQ has 1. TT and JJ have 12 combos by themselves not to mention KQs and QJs we get value from
Don't be that lose with the squeezed range of the BB!

Hero was on MP, and the range of HU 3bet spot is basically TT+, AKo(50%), AKs and some A2s-A5s (35% to 50%)..

Being a Squeeze, we almost never get value of TT and JJ using this size OTR.. and we NEVER want to get raised here with AQo..

Jus because he checkd flop, doens't mean he is weak.. and with an Ace blocking the flush draws I would check like 30% of the time..

But this villain just checked without one.. crazy....
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10-12-2018 , 09:05 AM
I like villain play a lot. Seems like a GTO strategy to me...

On the contrary, Hero could have folded preflop assuming villain is a capable reg.

Say, Hero called the 3! with a condensed range as follows (Hero to 4! With a polarised range):

AQs-ATs, KQs-KTs, QJs-J9s, JTs-78s, QQ-77, some AKo (say 25%-50%).

Flop: check back seems reasonable. Betting TPTK will make Hero’s checking range very weak. Hero should therefore check with a huge % of his range here, betting only with a polarised range in the ratio of 1:1 bluff vs value hands. Bluff hands will include weak flush draws with no showdown value. Value hands will be sets (below QQ)/two pairs+.

Turn: turn call is well played. The flop check means that Hero cannot be exploited at turn since Hero can still have strong hands when he check flop. Standard call. In general, hands to call with includes all TP, strong draws with SDV (eg., A high flush draw) . Raising range will be very narrow as well. Ratio of value to bluff should be 2:1. We checked QQ at flop so that we can raise them here for value to balance the hands that we raised as bluff (eg, a turned nut flush draw with a pair for eg)

River: any bet at river here is going to be very polarised given that it is a 3! Pot preflop. TPTK isn’t good enough to bet for value. As such, it’s a standard check back at river.

The problem with Hero line here is, AQo should never have reach such a stage where even with TPTK, we aren’t sure if we are good enough. AQs is a standard call but playing AQo in a 3! Pot is very tricky and hard to balance

Last edited by Andnoel; 10-12-2018 at 09:11 AM.
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10-12-2018 , 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I don't play 100NLz, but I think I'd fold to the squeeze. AQs is a standard call, but I'm not sure about AQo.

Post-flop looks very good. Optimal river size probably depends on how much you think he'll call with JJ/TT. His actual hand is a big surprise.
Villain flop check shouldn’t be a surprise at all considering the whole range of hands that villain will play this way.

Betting AA or even KK at flop will make his flop check weak. Certainly, there are hands in his range that will somehow check flop, eg, missed AK or AXs hands. It will therefore be good to check all (or at least 75%) of his AA hands and a mixed of 50% of his KK
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10-13-2018 , 12:31 AM
bet the flop jeez
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10-13-2018 , 08:47 PM
pretty std hand I think.

When you play more hands vs this guy I am confident he will turn out to be a major nit, only nits play this type of hand this way. vs majority of population i call AQo here but fold it vs a nit.

FWIW he lost huge value and this should be stacks most times IMO
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