iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $38.69 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: $96.93 (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 26.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 35)
Hero (CO): $133.35
BTN: $99.90 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: $191.21 (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, SB raises to $9.50, fold, Hero calls $7.00

Flop: ($20.00, 2 players) 7 K 2
SB bets $11.00, Hero calls $11.00

Turn: ($42.00, 2 players) T
SB bets $30.00, Hero calls $30.00

River: ($102.00, 2 players) 4
SB bets $140.71,


Would mostly 4 bet here but being the First 3 bet in 100 hands from V and being over 100 BB deep I decided not to.

Anyways, decent run out for the most part. What do you think, do we have to call off?

We need know, how many agr on postflop he have.
Also I recommend raise flop next time.

As played I think we rly can beat here, but if he is a maniac on postflop, we need calling.

Without more sample , specific stats and being deep (133bb eff stack) its an easy fold as played OTR.Also you dont have K or A of club to block some flushes etc. I would 4bet pre but flat is fine too vs him.

Is 130bb what counts as being deep these days?

I'm calling river. We don't block flushes, but it was a BD flush that came in and we also unblock villains bluffs. Conversely, we do block AA/KK. It's SB vs BTN so ranges are going to be wider comparatively, even for triple barrels. I think we end up chopping a fair amount, mind you.

If he is awhale he can easily have AQdd,AJdd ,89s,J9s that we can beat and obv we can lose by BD flush,TT,KT, ΚΚ ΑΑ or 77 and chop against AK. But i would call more easily if i had K or A of club and have bigger sample or note of villain. OP can catch a bluff here indeed but i would rather not to find out if he is capable to 3barrel bluff OOP for 130bb eff stack in this spot. Its a close decision to me and i tend to fold.

This. (Except hero is CO, not BTN.)

On the river we have some flushes (5-10 probably depending on how you play your ranges), some sets (3-6) and 2 combos of 2 pair. If we're looking at it from a purely theoretical view this hand would always have to calldown.

Why do we want to raise the flop and shut out the Vs air/bluff range that he will just fold when we do?

100 hand sample is pretty much meaningless.

Although we don't block back door flushes, we also don't block front door diamonds so he can have all his XdXd hands as bluffs on river that he may use as part of his BB vs LP 3b bluff range. And as mentioned we block AA/KK combos, so he potentially has more bluffs than value combos at his disposal here.

Our hand is massively under repped given the preflop action by position. We are very high up in our range here. (Only flatted AA and sets are higher for us here, as I don't think we have any suited club combos in our range to float flop with).

Started with 130bbs effective, in a 3b pot with all these factors, pretty standard river call for me.

He can pay with KQ KJ and some more hands if he will think, that is it bluff. Also you call 3b pre and he can think, that with AK you will do 4bet.
We take death money if he bet with TT or others and dont give him outs.
in the end, we got initiative and got some info.

ps calling will be good iv you know, that the villain will bet next hand.

Thanks for all the replies.

Acouple things to adress
1- no other meaningful stats. I play on ignition so 100 hands is actually big sample for me.
2- @jockoRocko, wouldn’t raising flop decimate our calling range? What hands can call 3 streets if we raise AK? Seeems hard to create a balanced range doing this unless you raise everything you continue with on the flop which doesn’t seem very good.

I understand the point you are making in regards to the fact you are playing anonymous poker and no screen names, so drawing fast assumptions are important.

However, it doesn't change the simple fact that 100 hand sample sizes of not facing a 3bet from a particular villain remains pretty meaningless and should not have us deviate from optimal strategy is the point.

To break it down even further, it's not really even a 100 hand sample. How many times inside of the 100 hands that we have played with this villain this session are we the first to open a pot, and this villain even has a chance to 3bet us? The answer is quite obviously much less than 100.

100 hands is enough for a quick stereotype. It won't be perfect but it will be better than nothing. It would be good to have population profiles for your stereotypes.

This. If we wait till we have 1k hands before even beginning to adapt then we are missing way too many opportunities to exploit.

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you're dream catching here imo..

No to flop raise. We want to keep his bluffs in. That river overbet screams “I know you have AK and have to call me here.” Sometimes you have to say screw theory and go by your gut.

he can did 3b pre with KJ, KQ,Kx A7 A2, did slim value cbet and call our raise if we are playing agr. , also we take death money if he will play c/f turn.

i think it is good way coz many ppl 4bet pre with AK

i think, on this board we can do many bluff raise for got fold with QQ AQ or something else, so he will easy call with Kx and may be call on the river too if we check the turn. For balance ill just did more bluff raise.

when we call here our range still can be strong and looks light. i mean, a villain can thinking, that he have many fold E and try beat us with QQ JJ , or we also can call with QQ JJ and he will do slim value bet on the river.

If we calling with AK our calling range going to be more strong.

Theory call yada yada
26/13 no 3bet in 100 says fold imo