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Old 10-12-2017, 04:25 PM   #1
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78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 191 BB (VPIP: 23.61, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 8.96, Hands: 146)
SB: 188.2 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 147)
BB: 133.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 16)
UTG: 67.2 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
Hero (MP): 172 BB
CO: 141.6 BB (VPIP: 29.82, PFR: 24.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 121)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 8

fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 5 8 3
SB checks, BB bets 22 BB, Hero raises to 162 BB and is all-in


Just shoved this to realize my whole equity vs his range or to take the pot right now.


Board: 853
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
MP2****41.87%**41.80%***0.06%*{ 9s8s }
MP3****58.13%**58.07%***0.06%*{ JJ-88, 55, 33 }


Don't want to see a brick ott since we are 3 handed in a big pot.

Tell me your thoughts about this play :-)
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:36 PM   #2
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

While it can't be all that bad - if it goes 3 way or even Vs 1 other opponent I'd expect not to have the best hand when called. It does make it easier to play but may not be optimal, it's rarely ever bad tho
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:45 PM   #3
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

I usually just always call in this spot, but maybe that's wrong. Would be curious to see what some other posters think. We certainly have enough fold equity for this to be +EV, but is it more +EV than calling?

I forget the hand, but there was a similar spot posted on the forums a few weeks ago. In that post, a lot of people said they would prefer to shove with hands that have no SDV -- all your other flush draws, basically -- and put things like this in your calling range despite it having more equity vs. villain's range.
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:02 PM   #4
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

With no good overs, shoving is fine here. It's def +EV, and you'll probably get a decent amount of Ax still c-betting this flop at these stakes to make it a high EV play.

I don't mind a flop call either, but I'd prefer to have something like As8s or similar.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:30 PM   #5
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

What hands are really calling you here is the question. Flush draws with 2 overs, overpairs and sets are all I see. Like someone before me said, when you get called you are probably behind. It isn't terrible, and it is definitely a winning play, but I like a call here and see what the SB does and how the turn unfolds. If SB raises though, I have no problem getting it in. I just want to call and keep them in with wider ranges.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:03 PM   #6
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

Im sure its profitable.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:00 AM   #7
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Re: 78s IP 3bet pot. Flop shove

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What hands are really calling you here is the question. Flush draws with 2 overs, overpairs and sets are all I see. Like someone before me said, when you get called you are probably behind. It isn't terrible, and it is definitely a winning play, but I like a call here and see what the SB does and how the turn unfolds. If SB raises though, I have no problem getting it in. I just want to call and keep them in with wider ranges.
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Thanks to all for the advices
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