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[5NLz] QQ HU in a 4-bet pot with narrow ranges

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10-15-2017 , 06:10 AM

JamesBJames

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

5NL Zone on Ignition, so no reads.

BB ($5.05)
Hero (UTG) ($5)
MP ($9.86)
CO ($4.90)
Button ($5.18)
SB ($4.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.55, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.38, MP calls $0.83

Flop: ($2.83) 3

, 4

, A

(2 players)
Hero...?

Spoiler:

Bonus question: What are we doing with other parts of our range?

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10-15-2017 , 08:54 AM

ALongmuir

adept

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 1,072

Flatting pre. V range is likely AKo/QQ-JJ, then other hands like AQs at some frequency. You can probs just x this down vs this range at 5NL assuming villain does the same with JJ. In theory, we probs wanna turn this into a bluff.

If we give UTG range of AKs/KK+/Axs it becomes an interesting spot since villain has more AK than us but also has QQ/JJ which we crush. Also if we bet/bet with AKs we always chop and AA blocks calling range, I think UTG wants to x quite a lot.

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10-15-2017 , 09:16 AM

72odonkey72

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 306

call 3bet pre, as played xc vs small sizing, xf is also probably good

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10-15-2017 , 01:29 PM

whitemares

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Definitely call pre. QQ isn't 4bet/GII UTG vs MP. I don't see any option besides check/folding. I think it's pretty unlikely villain is going to turn TT into a bluff.

I'm checking 100% of my range on this flop.

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10-16-2017 , 01:13 AM

lovelessRAGE

adept

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I'm also flatting pre utg vs mp readless especially at 5 NL.

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10-16-2017 , 06:35 PM

Bladesman87

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14,543

Pre's a flat given positions the way micros plays.

QQ's probably the bottom of your range or at least close to it now.

Villain's range is probably Ax and then maybe some JJ/TT (but that's very likely to check it down anyway) and then what? Two combos of KQs that might not 3-bet or not flat the 4-bet?

I think this is a spot where most players are going to really struggle for a bluff range, the bulk of their range has you dead, and so you really don't need to worry about being pretty face up with KK/QQ when you check.

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10-17-2017 , 09:46 AM

JamesBJames

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Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

Appreciate all the responses.

I'm a little surprised everyone wants to call the 3-bet PF but at micros where people have more linear 3-betting ranges I guess it makes sense. I'll look into tightening my UTG 4-bet range. Are we only 4-betting KK+, AKs, and occasionally something like A5s? Or should we just use a purely linear range at 5NL?

With a low SPR, I was debating between checking our whole range OTF or betting small with our whole range. Was leaning toward the former, but then it felt weird checking with range advantage and I wanted to see what other people thought.

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10-17-2017 , 10:13 AM

BackdoorQuadsDraw

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 404

I too would flat pre. I'd then x/c one street and hope he checks back JJ or TT to showdown. But fold to turn ir river bet.

AP I would actually lead flop and treat this as a one and done. We have a range advantage and if villain doesn't have an A he will probably just muck otf, the board is super dry. If he has a PP he may just call and x back turn and river at NL 5. This probably isn't a GTO strategy but that's the exploitative line I'd take at the limit. However I will expect to lose this hand the majority of the time, I just expect the above line to have a higher ev than zero and this preferable to x/f ap.

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