PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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BTN: 250.2 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 14.81, Hands: 68)
Hero (SB): 196.8 BB
BB: 123.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 64.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 177.6 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 110.2 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K
fold, MP raises to 2.4 BB, CO calls 2.4 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero raises to 30 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 27.6 BB, BTN calls 19 BB

Flop : (93.4 BB, 3 players) T 2 2
Hero bets 26.8 BB, fold, BTN calls 26.8 BB

Turn : (147 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 193.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 140 BB and is all-in




How's the 4-bet sizing? Feels okay to me but maybe I could've gone even bigger given how deep I am with the button and the fact that so many people are involved in the pot.

On the flop I obviously have a range advantage as nobody else should have AA or KK very often. I don't have a nut advantage as both the players remaining can feasibly have TT but I would just fold that preflop. Feels like checking and betting small are both reasonable options.

Not sure on checking or shoving turn. I think JJ/QQ shove so there's no real difference in getting value from them. The value of checking is to induce some random shoves from AK/AQ. Obviously with shoving we just get the money in now and avoid any awkward river spots.

its very wp when you have an op and like 2spr theres really nothing to do other than not fold.

Damn Villain got owned hard. I really like this as an example of the value of protecting your checking ranges. Hope you noted his spewbluff, definitely the type of play that warrants slightly looser calling against

4b is kinda big, 25x better imo
40x flop, ship turn
don't post results

I prefer heros size, if you look at villains stats hes squeezing some SCs there for sure and we dont wanna give him direct odds IP 200bb deep

Almost certainly turn should be checked with AA and KK with 25-50% frequency, maybe the heart combos do make a bit more sense to check

Not a fan of turn check. It's losing value/giving up equity. There are hands villain will have that call a bet that may just check behind.

AQ/AK are not going to be shoving this turn when checked to at all often.

And you're saying thats bottom of villains range here? We have a psb behind if turn goes check/check and can still jam rivers as a bluff and in this case for value

Not really sure what you are asking my friend

I wouldn't expect villain to call a bet with AK/AQ on the turn but neither would I expect them to bet if we check. So a check loses value versus smaller pairs and then I am not convinced it induces action often enough to make it profitable from villain's air. Would not expect villain to call AQo versus a 4bet and having two kings makes less combos of AK. Combined with villain flop call I think mostly his range is going to be pair heavy with some flush draws. Would rather get value/deny equity on the turn and with proper flop sizing this can be achieved. Villain may even call down with something like 99 in this spot. Have seen crazier calls.

That being said if I knew villain was a whale I would check turn sometimes if I though his range was especially wide but without reads I will just be betting.

Do you think we should have a checking range on the turn then? My range at this point is incredibly narrow. I basically just have QQ+ and AK. Maybe JJ against this guy who looks to be a more liberal 3-better than most. Would you shove everything here?

Yeah I would check sometimes. Would check against people who are stabbing too much and people who potentially would spazz out versus a check. So against a whale I would check more often because I can get them to spew on the turn and if not I can still stack their marginal hands on rivers. Against players who perceive my turn check range to be weak I would check as it induces some aggression. If I thought a player capable of folding QQ/JJ on the turn I would check turn and shove river as I find this is generally more successful against those kinds of opponents. These tend to be more reggy players who perceive our range to be super strong with a turn shove but maybe pay us off if we go bet/check/shove. Checking definitely has it's place.

BUT in general on this board, out of position, this deep with the SRP as it is I think betting the turn is more profitable. Giving a free card to any flush draw is probably a big mistake given the size of the pot. Also let's say villain has QQ and river is a K/A or a heart and we lose all that action. It's a big loss. And some villains are very capable of just calling off turn with 88-QQ. Even some nut flush draws, who knows.

(Note - I think it is somewhat villain dependent. Some villains will play well versus a check and some will play well versus a bet.)