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5NL zoom BB vs btn c/r with fd + gutter on flop facing 3bet

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02-25-2018 , 03:19 PM

Pikaberdort

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 687

BTN: $9.48 (189.6 bb)
SB: $6.16 (123.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5.69 (113.8 bb)
CO: $6.15 (123 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.26) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.13, Hero raises to $0.58, BTN raises to $1.30, Hero ?

Would it make a difference if we had 6

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02-25-2018 , 11:04 PM

Check_The_Nuts

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would check call flop here. You look like a flushdraw or complete air check raising, there are very few hands in your flop range that raise for value here.

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02-26-2018 , 12:01 AM

Pikaberdort

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Originally Posted by Check_The_Nuts

would check call flop here. You look like a flushdraw or complete air check raising, there are very few hands in your flop range that raise for value here.

What about with 56?
What about as played?

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02-26-2018 , 12:30 AM

nonsimplesimon

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Button knows you expect to hit this flop so he might be leveling you back but nonetheless he's not folding because it's so ragged. Versus an over pair you're actually not doing so great equity wise. So as stated yes just call. I wouldn't be raise folding nor wanting to gii so I can't advise on your play.

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02-26-2018 , 05:06 AM

AltoZZ

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Originally Posted by Check_The_Nuts

would check call flop here. You look like a flushdraw or complete air check raising, there are very few hands in your flop range that raise for value here.

This...
Different story if the flop came like 889ds etc (including higher cards than ur posted one)...

Cant see that many 4x in ur range

fwiw, I think V 3b is kinda silly.

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02-26-2018 , 08:37 AM

ToiletBowler

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Check raise is fine. 64, 54, A4, 33, 43 are all viable hands to have in our range pre.

We may also want to make a protection raise with the 88 or 77 we have in our range, not for this sizing though.

When we are 3bet I don’t expect much gold equity. I think fold is the best move since our outs can be dominated or dead but I couldn’t do it in game.

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02-26-2018 , 09:30 AM

Brokenstars

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,103

Tough spot.

Your raise sizing is huge btw.

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02-26-2018 , 09:50 AM

Bladesman87

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Raising your non-showdown draws is fine. Can raise smaller, then his 3-bet is smaller and a jam might have more fold equity, or we nit fold for less.

Main problem is that I don't expect anyone at 5nl to fold a hand like AhXh once they've done this. Ah5h being the worst case. Depending on what 4x you can have, it might be the case that you can be jamming two combos in 5h6h/6h7h and be so nutted with everything else that it doesn't even matter if you get snapped off here.

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02-26-2018 , 11:50 AM

Ojune

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Raising flop is fine, we can and should do that with a "non-polarized" range against button. Call the flop 3bet.

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