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12-17-2017 , 11:49 AM

serine86

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 205

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37900201

Hero (BTN): $17.25 (345 bb)
SB: $6.48 (129.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $4.03 (80.6 bb)
MP: $8.20 (164 bb)
CO: $17.32 (346.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 3 folds, MP raises to $1.45, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.02) A

(2 players)
MP bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45

Turn: ($5.92) 2

(2 players)
MP bets $2.45, Hero ?

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I did not want to get it in with 164bb eff stacks, I thought playing flop would be better, but I do not know what to do here, if I call we are left with peanuts OTR, if I shove, what worse hands call?

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12-17-2017 , 04:14 PM

Chrysostom

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 151

shove

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12-17-2017 , 09:54 PM

emibg

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 167

If you just call here, you know the poker gods will put a queen on the river just to screw with you.
But yeah, just shove. It's barely more than a minraise.

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12-18-2017 , 03:47 AM

nonsimplesimon

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 10,011

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Originally Posted by serine86

, if I shove, what worse hands call?

Lots of stuff. AQ-AT KQs guys go bonkers with JTs.... even if he has QQ you've got ay least 40% equity and more vs a lower play. 40% is tons for an ai situation. I was playing zoom tonight and was aipf three times and doubled up twice and tripled up the third time... but lost both times with KK

.... Gii and be happy

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12-18-2017 , 05:20 AM

Gunblade

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 447

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Lots of stuff. AQ-AT KQs guys go bonkers with JTs....

On a 4-bet? I know it's 5NL but rarely that loose, especially Zoom.
I play 10NL zoom and defo if I 5 bet shove only AA KK and QQ call. Occasioanlly you see AK.
Ok very very rsrely some whale calls with trash but yoyr crushed quite often when called.
I guess you'll have to figure out if you get enough folds for it be worthwhile.
I would expect to be losing money long term if I 5 bet shoved all in with AK any suit in a game of zoom 5 or 10 NL.

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12-18-2017 , 06:01 AM

Thy M

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 106

shove flop.

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12-18-2017 , 07:34 AM

IClickButtons

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,613

We do not fold obviously

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12-18-2017 , 11:06 AM

dynamite2006

adept

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 789

I just call. You are in position so the rest of the money can go in no matter what but let him keep betting if he thinks he's ahead of you or can make you fold. Some players at this stake think any ace is the nuts.

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12-18-2017 , 12:25 PM

JamesBJames

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

Shoving turn. I don't think it makes a difference because he's never not betting river and we're never not getting it in, but he's also never b/f'ing turn so why wait.

Not a fan of shoving flop because of low SPR and I don't want a raising range here anyway.

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12-18-2017 , 06:00 PM

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serine86

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 205

Thanks, I did shove the rest and he showed AA for a flopped top set... Just checking myself here. I just struggle to see what we beat in that spot but I suppose a non-two pair Ax is possible.

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12-19-2017 , 02:16 AM

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mirage01

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,151

****ty spot, but on that board you have to go broke, and hope he has AK. 164bb is not THAT deep.

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