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5NL Zone Is This an OK Triple-Barrel? 5NL Zone Is This an OK Triple-Barrel?

05-14-2021 , 04:26 PM
Trying to work on my red-line. Is it better to just give up on the turn or is this an OK spot blocking AJ/KJ.


Ignition - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $2.00
BB: $9.98
UTG: $4.87
Hero (MP): $5.48
CO: $4.95
BTN: $5.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K A

UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) 2 J 8
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.41, UTG calls $0.41

Turn: ($1.39, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.00, UTG calls $1.00

River: ($3.39, 2 players) 4
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.82 and is all-in,
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05-14-2021 , 07:19 PM
PF try going smaller like $.17. Then the standard is to c-bet a flop like this 1/3 pot. Then I would probably just check this turn. I think you're over thinking it. Triple barrels are almost pointless at this level.

Are you playing zone?
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05-14-2021 , 08:11 PM
Edit: flop sizing is probably OK, and probably check turn as played. We should have plenty of worse stuff we want to bluff
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05-15-2021 , 01:07 PM
I'm gonna assume they're a weaker player (coming from me haha) seeing as they limp called pre.

I think once they call flop and turn, the runout is dry enough that they're never folding river. They're basically saying they have a jack, so it comes down to will they fold it thinking you have AJ+, and the answer is... idk. I don't think so

Typically they're not gonna fold top pair

Also I think in theory AK has enough SDV that you'd rather check it behind and bet something like KQ or K9, which also blocks the straight. IDK, I just find that the type of players who limp call, then call flop are almost always very top pair heavy, and will call you all the way down unless you fire 3 barrels and the board gets 'scary'

I'm expecting to get called quite often by Jx here, maybe some middle pair that rivered 2 pair

IDK about flop sizing, I wouldn't be surprised to find out this is a spot where the solver has a mixed strategy incorporating some 1/4 and some 3/4, maybe even some overbets depending on what you think their limp calling range is.

Curious to see results
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05-15-2021 , 01:17 PM
Flop is a X if we use that sizing. We have the ultimate SD hand.

Turn no - we need equity. As a general rule you want some nut equity OTT to barrel.
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05-15-2021 , 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Flop is a X if we use that sizing. We have the ultimate SD hand.
Checking all combos of AK here because that sizing means we are going polar?

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05-15-2021 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franchise804
Checking all combos of AK here because that sizing means we are going polar?

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05-16-2021 , 08:46 AM
I agree with doodoo, AK is your best non-made hand to try to check all the way down to the river, use your KQ/QT type hands as the low equity bluffs if you want. Even if you had the flush draw otf, I think you should check it.
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05-16-2021 , 10:29 AM
Preflop 4x, flop debatable as seen above, turn give up imo
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