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5NL Zone Line Check #2 5NL Zone Line Check #2

04-16-2021 , 12:20 PM
Ignition - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $4.88
UTG: $5.02
MP: $7.29
CO: $8.42
BTN: $5.94
Hero (SB): $6.23

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15, 2 players) 9 3 9
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.15, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

River: ($3.65, 2 players) 4
Hero bets $4.43 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.14 and is all-in
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04-16-2021 , 01:10 PM
this one is a bit of a mess ngl

Pre is not a 3b, but could be justified with some sort of exploit in mind

Flop is almost certainly a pure bet for half pottish, but okay checking could again be justified with an exploit in mind, like villain stabbing too much

Turn is reasonable

River is kind of a punt sizing, why the overbet jam? What are you tryinna get called by, 55 with a heart? Bit optimistic
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04-16-2021 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by aner0
this one is a bit of a mess ngl

Pre is not a 3b, but could be justified with some sort of exploit in mind

Flop is almost certainly a pure bet for half pottish, but okay checking could again be justified with an exploit in mind, like villain stabbing too much

Turn is reasonable

River is kind of a punt sizing, why the overbet jam? What are you tryinna get called by, 55 with a heart? Bit optimistic
I was experimenting with widening 3 bet BTN Vs SB. generally I'm just folding pre.

Interestingly I was the most concerned with turn OB.

TBH I was a bit steaming mentally at this point, latter end of a rough session.

OTR I was trying to get all weaker 9x and PPs to call.

Not saying I'm happy with this hand at all, just kind of walking through what I was thinking.
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04-16-2021 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 21Outer
I was experimenting with widening 3 bet BTN Vs SB. generally I'm just folding pre.

Interestingly I was the most concerned with turn OB.

TBH I was a bit steaming mentally at this point, latter end of a rough session.

OTR I was trying to get all weaker 9x and PPs to call.

Not saying I'm happy with this hand at all, just kind of walking through what I was thinking.
A weak 9 doesnt usually play like that, he has most often a weak pocket , some busted Diamonds and a few better hands than yours
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04-16-2021 , 04:42 PM
wat u doing
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04-18-2021 , 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 21Outer
I was experimenting with widening 3 bet BTN Vs SB. generally I'm just folding pre.

Interestingly I was the most concerned with turn OB.

TBH I was a bit steaming mentally at this point, latter end of a rough session.

OTR I was trying to get all weaker 9x and PPs to call.

Not saying I'm happy with this hand at all, just kind of walking through what I was thinking.
A9o is an okay call against BU.

Now, I know how a rough session can go in Zone, yesterday had jam all in with 88 vs my QQ pre, I call, dude rivers an 8. Switched levels. (I have the bankroll to do that).

On wet board like that, we want to bet, maybe one third to one half. However, that would be donking, so we are hoping villain bets.

Interesting call by villain on turn.

Again, 1/2 to 3/4 pot on river, maybe reluctantly call shove.
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04-18-2021 , 07:38 PM
Flatting A9o is worse than 3betting it (and both options are dreadful)
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04-18-2021 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureInsights
A9o is an okay call against BU.
Your game is like a full decade behind, imo you should really stop trying to discuss strategy until you bring yourself a bit more up to speed on strategy developments that have occurred within the last few years
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04-19-2021 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Your game is like a full decade behind, imo you should really stop trying to discuss strategy until you bring yourself a bit more up to speed on strategy developments that have occurred within the last few years
I;m using a 2021 hand chart.

I am not decades behind. but thanks for the suggestion.
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04-19-2021 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureInsights
I;m using a 2021 hand chart.



I am not decades behind. but thanks for the suggestion.
Seriously? I can't imagine where the hell you bought ranges from if they're telling you that you should have any flatting range out of the SB at all, let alone with garbage

And well, you for whatever reason seem to think that calling out of the SB w A9o is a good play, and if that isn't some pre-Black Friday poker strat, then idk what is
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04-19-2021 , 03:51 AM
FutureInsights sitting down at the poker table.

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04-19-2021 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureInsights
I;m using a 2021 hand chart.

I am not decades behind. but thanks for the suggestion.
That chart is telling you to 3bet A9o from the SB??? Get a new one...
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04-19-2021 , 03:08 PM
Yea idk what kind of messed up parameters sim would have to come up with flatting A9o vs a 3x open
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04-22-2021 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gsiciliano
That chart is telling you to 3bet A9o from the SB??? Get a new one...
No where does it say 3bet 19o. Dunno where you get that.

I don't have SB doing anything with A9o in any position.

Now, there is no standard, because all raises and flats are position dependent.

UTG different from HU different from CO, etc.

A9o okay from BB according to chart.

As explained in another thread, if its not 100% 3bet, I put it in flatting range.

If OP wants to play A9o from SB, it is an okay call. I sometimes splash a little as well. A little 87s from UTG, 55 from HJ, etc. This is not a rule, and is against the charts. Called a flat from SB with 98s, planning on bluffing vs UTG. Not in charts either. Bluffed AQo out of pot with 2 pair on board. (25nl)

Last edited by FutureInsights; 04-22-2021 at 06:51 PM.
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04-22-2021 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
FutureInsights sitting down at the poker table.

LOL
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