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09-18-2020 , 04:58 PM
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Yatahay Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 90.2 BB
CO: 40.2 BB
BTN: 89.6 BB
Hero (SB): 117.8 BB
BB: 121.4 BB
UTG: 106 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, BB calls 8.6 BB, fold

Flop: (22 BB, 2 players) 7 A 2
Hero bets 6.6 BB, BB calls 6.6 BB

Turn: (35.2 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 17.6 BB, BB calls 17.6 BB

River: (70.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 36.8 BB, BB raises to 87.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 47.2 BB and is all-in

WHHHHATTTT? :3 what do you think?
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09-18-2020 , 05:03 PM
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Pre is too small. I like 13 BB. A lot of people on this site will say my sizing is too big, and they'll probably tell you to go 11.2BB.

It's nit picky, but I'd size up ever so slightly to 8 BB on the flop, just to help set up an easier shove on the river.

As played, I'd go a little larger on the turn, like 22 BB to set up an easier shove on the river.

Despite your previous street sizings, I would still just shove this river. As played, it's really annoying, but I guess I call given the odds we're getting. FWIW I expect to lose here a supermajority of the time.
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09-18-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Pre is too small. I like 13 BB. A lot of people on this site will say my sizing is too big, and they'll probably tell you to go 11.2BB.

It's nit picky, but I'd size up ever so slightly to 8 BB on the flop, just to help set up an easier shove on the river.

As played, I'd go a little larger on the turn, like 22 BB to set up an easier shove on the river.

Despite your previous street sizings, I would still just shove this river. As played, it's really annoying, but I guess I call given the odds we're getting. FWIW I expect to lose here a supermajority of the time.
yup should have bet larger on every street. thats a leak I need to fix in my game, Im always scared that if I bet too large they will fold.

What would you say villain usually has in this situation?
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09-18-2020 , 05:17 PM
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yup should have bet larger on every street. thats a leak I need to fix in my game, Im always scared that if I bet too large they will fold.

What would you say villain usually has in this situation?
Don't be scared. Those differences in sizes don't really add more fold equity into equation; they really aren't that much different, but they're a big help for the SPR.

I would say villain usually has 22, 77, 87s, 76s, A7s, and then some overplayed AK/AQ/maybe AJ
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09-18-2020 , 05:19 PM
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River must be a shove.
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09-18-2020 , 05:20 PM
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Don't be scared. Those differences in sizes don't really add more fold equity into equation; they really aren't that much different, but they're a big help for the SPR.

I would say villain usually has 22, 77, 87s, 76s, A7s, and then some overplayed AK/AQ/maybe AJ
makes sense.
FYI, he had pocket aces
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09-18-2020 , 05:22 PM
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yup should have bet larger on every street. thats a leak I need to fix in my game, Im always scared that if I bet too large they will fold.

What would you say villain usually has in this situation?

From a hand reading perspective there really isn't a ton of hands that you lose to that make sense. Villain can obviously have plenty of hands with a 7 defending out of the BB but doubt they are leading turn with pocket 55s. Bit of a tough spot but am probably calling it off here as villain can also be spazzing out with a decent Ax.
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09-18-2020 , 05:26 PM
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makes sense.
FYI, he had pocket aces
That makes sense, too. Obviously pre flop was horrible, and you just shouldn't have a cold calling of 3 bets range, but AA totally makes sense (they don't want to lose action.) I'm surprised I didn't think of that.
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