5nl 3barrel with AA on a monotone board - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Online No-Limit Hold’em Cash

5nl 3barrel with AA on a monotone board

Post Reply Subscribe

...

09-23-2018 , 02:40 PM

juhiimi

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 125

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.61 (212.2 bb)
BB: $9.79 (195.8 bb) Unknown
Hero (UTG): $5 (100 bb)
MP: $6.43 (128.6 bb)
CO: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
BTN: $7.31 (146.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.64) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.31, BB calls $0.31

River: ($1.26) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.61, BB raises to $4.38, Hero folds

So i bet 1/2 pot on every street to get called by lower fd-s and weaker jacks. OTR he raises me 7x i think it's a clear fold i just wanted to be sure that im right

So is this good? The bestsizings and the fold?

Quote

09-23-2018 , 02:53 PM

Renekton

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 853

Flop and turn are fine. River fold is good. Not sure about river bet though. I think it works well vs population that calls too much. I'll have to play with a solver

Quote

09-24-2018 , 03:14 AM

ChipsNcrisps

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

I like checking flop or turn

Quote

09-24-2018 , 07:07 AM

duckyfAL

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 592

i think you bet small otf and turn, im betting 3/4 with over pair and fd to the nuts.

and im x/c river.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 07:24 AM

juhiimi

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckyfAL

i think you bet small otf and turn, im betting 3/4 with over pair and fd to the nuts.

and im x/c river.

And what do you expect that he bets with OTR, and we beat? Qsx?
I think we extract more value if we bet OTR as if we x/call.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 07:39 AM

duckyfAL

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 592

Quote:

Originally Posted by juhiimi

And what do you expect that he bets with OTR, and we beat? Qsx?
I think we extract more value if we bet OTR as if we x/call.

any bluf? any K?

He can be calling with any S thinking he is gonna win if he hits. If you bet river, you are taking away the posibility he bluff you for a fd miss.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 07:56 AM

juhiimi

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckyfAL

any bluf? any K?

He can be calling with any S thinking he is gonna win if he hits. If you bet river, you are taking away the posibility he bluff you for a fd miss.

Yeah, well he might check back a weaker Ksx which otherwise he would call with and there are not that many busted fd's that he gets to the river with.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 08:11 AM

duckyfAL

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 592

Quote:

Originally Posted by juhiimi

Yeah, well he might check back a weaker Ksx which otherwise he would call with and there are not that many busted fd's that he gets to the river with.

so wich K he has here? Ks ?, he calls 2 streets with a K and he hits the river, i mean only 1 card he has, and you say he had it. idk you have to play more general.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 08:15 AM

juhiimi

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckyfAL

so wich K he has here? Ks ?, he calls 2 streets with a K and he hits the river, i mean only 1 card he has, and you say he had it. idk you have to play more general.

No, im saying that he has more weaker hands that he calls with, then bluffs that he bets with or value hands that we beat. So i think the bet/fold line is higher EV. But i might be wrong...

Quote

09-24-2018 , 11:36 AM

#10

duckyfAL

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 592

Quote:

Originally Posted by juhiimi

No, im saying that he has more weaker hands that he calls with, then bluffs that he bets with or value hands that we beat. So i think the bet/fold line is higher EV. But i might be wrong...

well no, you are not wrong, this is poker, and that is the funny part, its not exact.

Maybe im wrong. anyways what you did, you fold ?

Quote

09-24-2018 , 01:00 PM

#11

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

I'd start with an even smaller c-bet. When you go with 1/2pot, I think you need to consider checking back the turn or river.
As played, folding looks mandatory, as you block the natural bluffs (the bare As), and if villain had the Ks he'd just sigh-call river, not turn top pair into a bluff.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 02:36 PM

#12

robert_utk

Not From the UK

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,822

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckyfAL

i think you bet small otf and turn, im betting 3/4 with over pair and fd to the nuts.

and im x/c river.

This is how I play it, for the reasons given. As played bet-folding river is a disaster. What are we hoping is going to pay off (but not raise). I think many villains would raise Kx on the river as an unintended range merge bet.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 05:29 PM

#13

afortiori

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 140

If the raise was a little smaller I'd be tempted to call but as played idk, probably not a big deal either way. It would be weird for villain to play a set or flush this way and there are so few combos of flushes. KJ might do this but there's not a lot of that either. Don't think the average NL5 villain is raising a K here.

Quote

09-24-2018 , 06:07 PM

#14

ULTRACURRY

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 179

You don't have a value bet on the river.. just check behind and see the flush.. or an off suited card with an spades..

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...