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55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? 55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine?

08-20-2019 , 12:37 PM
BTN is a 24/18/7 TAG but a regular loser.
CO is a fish



q1) If raise is 5-10% of effective stack can we setmine profitably? Can I call upto 55 bet here?
I fold if raise is 10% eff. stack and call if it is less than 5%


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    Poker Stars, $2/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $561.49 (112.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): $541.42 (108.3 bb)
    UTG: $73.67 (14.7 bb)
    MP: $1,058.38 (211.7 bb)
    CO: $923.54 (184.7 bb)
    BTN: $619.50 (123.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 5
    2 folds, CO calls $5, BTN raises to $40, Hero???

    55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
    08-20-2019 , 01:18 PM
    Call. The 5/10 rule is a good start for calling for the purpose of set mining. Usually against a steal range I would tend to be more conservative about set mining. Does v get to river often? Does he stack off with TP.

    Considering that CO will probably call behind your call, this is giving you great implied odds if you are able to get any of the stacks postflop. It will still be tricky to make money OOP though. This spot is an easy call though. If CO was going to be HU against me I would try to set mine most of the times but I would make the decision dependent on how loose villain is postflop and not preflop.
    55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
    08-20-2019 , 01:18 PM
    Dont call to setmine ever, fold pre
    55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
    08-20-2019 , 01:27 PM
    fold for that price
    55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
    08-21-2019 , 12:47 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2019fish2019
    Dont call to setmine ever, fold pre
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chopari333
    Call. The 5/10 rule is a good start for calling for the purpose of set mining. Usually against a steal range I would tend to be more conservative about set mining. Does v get to river often? Does he stack off with TP.

    Considering that CO will probably call behind your call, this is giving you great implied odds if you are able to get any of the stacks postflop. It will still be tricky to make money OOP though. This spot is an easy call though. If CO was going to be HU against me I would try to set mine most of the times but I would make the decision dependent on how loose villain is postflop and not preflop.
    Request your views on this hand please..
    SB and MP were set mining nits

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      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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      SB: $401.88 (200.9 bb)
      BB: $136.11 (68.1 bb)
      MP: $164.01 (82 bb)
      Hero (CO): $211.59 (105.8 bb)
      BTN: $66.91 (33.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
      MP raises to $7, Hero raises to $41, 3 folds, MP calls $34

      Flop: ($85) 3 8 T (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $64, MP raises to $123.01 and is all-in, Hero calls $59.01

      Turn: ($331.02) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($331.02) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $331.02 pot ($17.05 rake)
      Final Board: 3 8 T Q 4
      MP showed 8 8 and won $313.97 ($149.96 net)
      Hero showed K K and lost (-$164.01 net)
      55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
      08-21-2019 , 01:10 AM
      you created an spr of 1.5 and you're never ever ever doing anything but bet/calling.

      MP's way more of a fish than a nit.
      55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
      08-21-2019 , 04:15 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by .isolated
      you created an spr of 1.5 and you're never ever ever doing anything but bet/calling.

      MP's way more of a fish than a nit.
      sorry i didnt fully get you.
      i got the spr part

      did i take a wrong line vs these opponents and spewed it?
      55 in BB, Cold Call or fold the iso raise for set mine? Quote
      08-21-2019 , 04:41 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dubakkur2
      sorry i didnt fully get you.
      i got the spr part

      did i take a wrong line vs these opponents and spewed it?
      he's saying you shouldn't fold an overpair on the flop in a large pot, when the spr is 1.5

      and after you've put in an additional 30bb into a 40bb pot, you never ever fold to a 30bb more raise

      btw the 3b size you used is a bit ridiculous. you 6x co's pot sized raise. he might be a fish but you don't want to give him that much incentive to correctly fold to your 3bets.

      regarding your setmine hand, you would not be able to make money in the long run calling to setmine in this configuration. you'd need to be considerably deeper with both the fish and the reg and the fish is what entices you to setmine in the first place.

      the equity you calculate your small pp to have vs pfr's range is not a thing, as you'd need to be able to showdown your hand every time in order to fully realize it. you are oop with a small pair and you know how rarely that happens.
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