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Old 06-16-2021, 06:26 PM   #1
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50z XC XC XC :(

Yatahay Network - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 205.54 BB
SB: 131 BB
BB: 120 BB
Hero (UTG): 114.86 BB
MP: 104.8 BB
CO: 139.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh As
Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) Ah Th 3c
Hero checks, BTN bets 4.42 BB, Hero calls 4.42 BB

Turn : (15.34 BB, 2 players) Js
Hero checks, BTN bets 11.42 BB, Hero calls 11.42 BB

River : (38.18 BB, 2 players) 9d
Hero checks, BTN bets 24.96 BB, Hero calls 24.96 BB
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:44 PM   #2
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

What is he bluffing with
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:45 PM   #3
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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What is he bluffing with


What am I calling with
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:46 PM   #4
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

Villain dependent i think. The lunatic in me wants to turn this into a bluff.
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:49 PM   #5
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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What am I calling with
Why should this be more important?
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:52 PM   #6
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

This is one of those spots where we level ourselves and think villain will blast off when we look like KK, QQ, KT , QT and weak aces. Whether villain is capable of turning showdown value into a bluff is another thing and unlikely. Plus we block some natural bluffs.
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:54 PM   #7
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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Why should this be more important?


Cause I donít wanna fold my whole range .-.
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:54 PM   #8
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

I'd be on the brink of folding turn tbh, but it's close

River I fold vs by far most opponents
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:59 PM   #9
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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Cause I don’t wanna fold my whole range .-.
You're closer to bottom of range than to top of range though
But even if you weren't, calling a -EV spot isn't justified by how close to top of range you are

EDIT: Just solved it it's a pure river fold, mixed turn fold. Folding turn higher than 50% of the time too

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Old 06-16-2021, 07:22 PM   #10
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

Do we need 2 pairs to call here when our range looks capped?
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:26 PM   #11
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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Do we need 2 pairs to call here when our range looks capped?
It's definitely not capped, you're supposed to check flop a lot, and then call a bunch of strong hands to his bets,
On the river, about 40% of your range is 2p+
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:03 PM   #12
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Old 06-17-2021, 12:22 AM   #13
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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It's definitely not capped, you're supposed to check flop a lot, and then call a bunch of strong hands to his bets,
On the river, about 40% of your range is 2p+


Bluff catching with 2 pair seems silly to me but idk

Also how am I 40% 2pair+??

I think I would XR sets, 2 pairs, KQ OTT at some freq
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Old 06-17-2021, 12:23 AM   #14
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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Actual hand was 89hh

(But itís a very structured bluff and doesnít reveal too much about his NAR)
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Old 06-17-2021, 04:03 AM   #15
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Bluff catching with 2 pair seems silly to me but idk

Also how am I 40% 2pair+??

I think I would XR sets, 2 pairs, KQ OTT at some freq
You're supposed to mostly call all of the nutted hands OTF
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:16 AM   #16
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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It's definitely not capped, you're supposed to check flop a lot, and then call a bunch of strong hands to his bets,
I suspect in most villain's eyes, we look capped by the river.

People love going crazy IP vs checks.
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:25 AM   #17
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

i guess villain is supposed to bluff with 22,44,55. probably a call in theory a fold in practice
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:38 AM   #18
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Not sure why we're giving up the betting lead. Is this standard?
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Old 06-17-2021, 07:26 AM   #19
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

In my player pool, and without any reads, I think you have to call here when this hand is played so passively.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:28 AM   #20
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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Actual hand was 89hh

(But itís a very structured bluff and doesnít reveal too much about his NAR)
NAR?
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:34 AM   #21
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

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NAR?


Nut to Air Ratio
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Nut to Air Ratio
Ah yes I knew it but forgot ty.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:41 AM   #23
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

Got to be a good competent reg for you to x/c river profitable here

Even so I would fold AQ otr here
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:07 AM   #24
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Re: 50z XC XC XC :(

So I just checked my database and have small sample of 20 hands where I was heads up and XC all 3 streets.

Villains were bluffing in 9/20
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Old 06-17-2021, 12:32 PM   #25
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snap fold
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