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50z AA vs fish in 3-bet pot facing a min-raise OTT 50z AA vs fish in 3-bet pot facing a min-raise OTT

03-20-2018 , 10:24 AM
Villain was a fish, his AFq OTT was 20, had a 137 sample on him, 21/17 and I had a note that he called KTs OOP vs a 3-bet, His AFq OTF was quite high and he had some x/r there. Is this a fold or a call?

Most people just jam and be fine with it, but I try to get the max of each fish, and when they min-raise like that, it's like the nuts a lot. When whales min-raise it could be with any crap, but from my experience, vs tight fish like that they are very strong when they do that.

Can we expect him overplaying JJ/Tx afraid of the flush a lot of the time?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 89.5 BB
SB: 189.88 BB
BB: 107.02 BB
UTG: 50 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 510.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) Q T Q
UTG checks, Hero bets 6.12 BB, UTG calls 6.12 BB

Turn: (31.74 BB, 2 players) 6
UTG checks, Hero bets 9.98 BB, UTG raises to 19.96 BB
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03-20-2018 , 10:29 AM
call and try to hit that 2 outer, fold river if you don't

you really don't need him to bluff and give up river very often
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03-20-2018 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
call and try to hit that 2 outer, fold river if you don't

you really don't need him to bluff and give up river very often
do you like checking either flop or turn more than hero's line? or are you trying to get 3 streets if V doesn't raise us.
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03-20-2018 , 10:42 AM
I usually check somewhere
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03-20-2018 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x
do you like checking either flop or turn more than hero's line? or are you trying to get 3 streets if V doesn't raise us.
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Originally Posted by Ojune
I usually check somewhere
Checking is terrible vs a fish, he will call a ton with worse, we want to get max value off his SDV hands

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Originally Posted by Ojune
call and try to hit that 2 outer, fold river if you don't

you really don't need him to bluff and give up river very often
the bad thing of doing this is that if the fish is overplaying something we lose value vs that and give him all his equity with his draws that will never fold if we jam, also we're pretty much dead and don't have odds to call vs his Qx. It's also way tougher to find folds OTR when he bets 15 into 70

imo our options are either folding turn or jamming for the rest of the money
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03-20-2018 , 11:05 AM
You don't want to jam against too strong of a range. Villain will realize his equity, that's just the nature of the game.

Yeah I think looking back checking is pretty bad, I didn't pay close attention to the spr.
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03-20-2018 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
You don't want to jam against too strong of a range. Villain will realize his equity, that's just the nature of the game.
villain has 15bb left, man
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03-20-2018 , 11:18 AM
Might be vomit folding as crazy as it sounds- whenever a fish min raises a turn in a 3bp they tend to have a nutted hand.
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03-20-2018 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
villain has 15bb left, man
Yeah and I think a too strong of a range to shove against, I don't think we're good 25% of the time although we probably have some FE.
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