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01-21-2018 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by B3ck
Then your not following your own thought process. Sorry.
You're*

Not sure how you can't follow your own thought process..? I was essentially saying that there are implied odds and reverse implied odds involved here and so, rather than making a game tree on card runners, which I frankly can't be bothered to do, I'm going to make a reasonable assumption that those things are somewhat similarly likely, given positions, likely ranges etc, and just use the direct pot odds to arrive at a decision.
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01-21-2018 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BackdoorQuadsDraw
You're*

Not sure how you can't follow your own thought process..? I was essentially saying that there are implied odds and reverse implied odds involved here and so, rather than making a game tree on card runners, which I frankly can't be bothered to do, I'm going to make a reasonable assumption that those things are somewhat similarly likely, given positions, likely ranges etc, and just use the direct pot odds to arrive at a decision.
I apologize for using "your" instead of "you're". Thank you for critiquing my grammar on a poker forum. Please keep all posts relevant to the hand or concepts surrounding the hand in the future.

It seems you are not be able to grasp the concepts I have explained to you or the ones that @isolated. also mentioned. Whether that is due to your own inability to admit you are wrong or the fact that you're perhaps not as smart as you indicated I can not say with certainty. But the fact you quoted @isolated. before me leads me to believe it's the former.

With that said I see no point in engaging you in conversation any further. We clearly have different view points and we've both presented them. I'm sure OP and most people who read the thread will be able to determine who is right.

Last edited by B3ck; 01-21-2018 at 01:16 AM.
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01-21-2018 , 07:10 AM
*viewpoints
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01-21-2018 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by B3ck
I said based on 10 outs. I was implying that he would fold on a 7h or 10h. That being said what is your opponent check raising such a small sizing on the turn that is not giving you the implied odds to make the call? Getting about 3.2:1 on a call even if you only stack your opponent 1/5 times it's going to be profitable.
You eliminate your reverse implied odds by refusing to pay villain off on the cards that may have some reverse implied odds attached to them. Eliminating the potential RIO has a very positive affect on your implied odds. Hopefully most people understand this.

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Originally Posted by BackdoorQuadsDraw
It's hard to calculate implied odds and reversed implied odds, but the fact that villain has both here makes me want to disregard those concepts really and just use the pot odds calculation,

This is a very flawed thought process and is incorrect. The presence of RIO do affect your implied odds, this is true but the idea they cancel each other out or you that you can just disregard both of them. There is no reasoning behind it. It sounds like a lot of:
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Originally Posted by BackdoorQuadsDraw
LOL TOP PAIR CAN'T FOLD LOL!
IMHO.


I do enjoy conversing with you because you do have some poker IQ. We could actually have a good debate and maybe learn from each other but you seem to think it's about being right. It's not, if you stop being so self-absorbed you will be able to view things without a bias towards ones own self.

Last edited by B3ck; 01-21-2018 at 08:07 AM.
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01-21-2018 , 09:48 AM
Haha yes ok fair, I was just being a dick there
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01-22-2018 , 04:09 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. Some great discussions which i have taken on board
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