Opponent is 18/10 yet very nitty on showdowns, Hes had one in almost 200 hands and it was top set, his gone to sd is below 10%. This is a small sample, but something to note as he folds alot of small bets. When he calls my flop i worry he has something, and i have no clue how to proceed from here. What are some standard lines?


btw for kaz: i have been playing a std tag game, little nitty but nothing drastic.


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

PJo336 (BB): $77.25
AcsCrshMchin (UTG): $142.60
MDoranD (CO): $187.45
EVIL DOER (BTN): $64.55
cbsplash (SB): $29.50

Pre Flop: PJo336 is BB with 8 9
2 folds, EVIL DOER raises to $1.50, 1 fold, PJo336 calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.25) 3 T 8 (2 players)
PJo336 checks, EVIL DOER bets 2.50, PJo336 raises $6.50 to $9, EVIL DOER calls

turn: (21.25) A
PJo336
pf is std for me btw, im spewy like that



Fixed it holler!

If he bets im raising if he checks im betting and its going in.

Pretty much what he said.

FE + middlepair + FD!!

i fixed it, problem is on the turn im just a donk and deleted flop action and turn, sighh took me like 40 edits to fix

bet/call the turn its a good card to dbl barrel.

ur willing to call a shove here?

We're probably against a set or two pair here if villain shoves, meaning our equity drops significantly... no way I'm calling a shove here.

I do think we should fire something like 14 here, though.

bet the turn cos that card gives you pretty good fold equity. Srsly puke if you get shoved on

does 14 commit me? i tried fig the math on a cardboard box and i think its like 4/8.9, not sure its good enuff but idk

If you bet $14 and he shoves I think you have to fold because you are almost certainly against 2pair+ then, and you must catch your flush draw, which is going to be around 5 to 1 now because not all clubs are good IMO.

With those stacks betting 12-15 and folding to shove is fine. I think you have to lead this everytime tho.

ok gen vote is to bet 14ish, so say i do and he flats, and the river bricks, im into c/f mode correct?

Yes. No hands you beat will flat you on the turn... expect KK-JJ here very often.

Thats a pretty bad flop raise. He only folds 99.

I would c/c flop and turn. c/f river unimproved.

edit: you can sometimes c/r turn depending on readds too.

my hand is a monster, i want to get it in on the flop if possible, c/cing till u hit and then betting is too transparent to get full value on most people, plus drawing oop sucks

Getting it in on flop is +ev, but there are better lines imo

why are you raising?

why not let him dbl brl turn?

Because you have the huge hand and even if you dont hit you can double barrel turn with FE?

Because when he pots a blank you cant call and there are like 2 billion cards that are gonna kill the action.

You want him to to call? Its a valuebet/semibluff with huge hand.

Thats bad i think, your not gonna get much value when you actually hit your hand since its so transparent.


As played if the river blanks c/f is the right line.

whats this about not getting value. How much value do you think u got when he gets it all-in on the flop?

Problem with this is that you are representing only like 3 hands, given that you just called in the blinds. All he has to worry about is like 33/88/T8 because you dont really have T3, and of course a flushdraw is big in your range. So if villain is thinking you have very low FE because although your line is strong, theres no real hand which can make sense for you here other than 33 or a bluff, so he'll be looking you up with JJ a lot.

The Ace is a good scarecard so you may want to bluff at it but a good villain will see through you, and whatever you do is going to be expensive. if he has a 2pair type hand he'll just say "you're going to have to show me a set" and call, because your range is so polarised.

You hate getting money in good? You have great equity against his range and a monster draw so just get it in.

meh i guess i'd bet the turn smallish as a bluff just cos he sounds amazingly weak tight and the A is a great card and we have some equity when called.

c/f any non river.

11 on turn rest on river he loves to fold mate.
b3b here is better

Yes i hate getting my money in good when there are more +ev options. AT BEST we are a 55% favourite against his flop AI range.

Now, the only way i can be convinced that a flop raise is good is if it can be shown that we can profitably dbl barrel and perhaps even triple barrel.

I don't think we should be worrying about whether an 18/10 with 1 s/d over 200 hands is gonna 'see through us', and obv we can be flatting a lot of 2 pair or set combos pre.

we should be worrying about whether he has a monster given he stuck around after our c/r, but i think it's worth one more shot.