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02-18-2019 , 11:02 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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PokerStars - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $389.93 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: $209.25 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
CO: $281.01 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: $112.65 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (SB): $199.05

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $19.50, Hero raises to $49.00, BB calls $29.50

Flop: ($98.00, 2 players) 8

Hero bets $35.00, BB calls $35.00

Turn: ($168.00, 2 players) K

Hero bets $115.05 and is all-in

I realize this looks "spewy" but V never has Kx here, and would shove flop with fds for the most part, so I expect this spot to get overfolded by 98s, 99, TT

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02-18-2019 , 11:19 PM

DooDooPoker

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TT/99 with a diamond always call but you get him off TT/99 no diamond.

I’d check flop though. We can always get him off Ace high/King high OTT and if we bet flop and get shoved on we are put in a really tough spot.

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02-18-2019 , 11:33 PM

AngryDingo

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This whole hand is pure spew imo

What is the reasoning for 4bet bluffing q7s pre vs an unknown?

Cbetting an awful board for your range

Villian is not as capped as you think, he can def have AK+ here and AA that he decided to smooth call in position.

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02-18-2019 , 11:40 PM

Brokenstars

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interesting. I don't think it's all that bad, but I don't like 4b bluffing bvb here oop with no info as the tendency is to under 3b and therefore under fold to 4b

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02-18-2019 , 11:45 PM

AngryDingo

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As played check raise all in vs small bet and check fold vs big bet seems ok? I'm not sure you're ever getting a fold with a 1/3 here.

Edit:. Talking about flop play

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02-19-2019 , 03:06 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I’d check flop though. We can always get him off Ace high/King high OTT and if we bet flop and get shoved on we are put in a really tough spot.

why is it a tough spot to B/F flop?
yeah we fail to realize some equity but its kinda mediocre equity, like B/F is not ideal but not a disaster or anything.

I don't like X flop, in this type of spot the IP player is gonna stab very high freq when X to.
We def want to cbet imo to fold out KQ, AJ hands.

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Originally Posted by AngryDingo

What is the reasoning for 4bet bluffing q7s pre vs an unknown?

Cbetting an awful board for your range

this board favors our range in a 4bp.
Preflop is questionable. I like to 4b some KXs QXs hands which are too weak to call so that my 4b bluff range isn't just wheel aces.
There's no great reason for it situationally here. I do get the feeling that some 200 regs 3b way too much IP BVB.

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02-19-2019 , 07:09 AM

Unsporting

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Originally Posted by AngryDingo

This

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02-19-2019 , 01:23 PM

JohnRusty

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4-bet seems like pure spew

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02-19-2019 , 02:44 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

X flop is amazing then if IP player stabs - we can XR all in and get him to fold.

B/F is a disaster because once we bet $35 and if Villain ships we only need 115/400 = <29% equity to call.

The Gutshot alone is going to give us close to the equity we need. And we don't know if the Q is live so it makes it a very marginal spot.

You want to cbet to fold out KQ/AJ hands but then you say IP is going to stab at a very high frequency when checked too. That would make XR the ideal play here.

It's a huge win if we get the hands you said to put more money in and fold in a pot where the SPR is under 2.

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02-19-2019 , 10:12 PM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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Hm, yeah I can get on board with XRAI

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02-19-2019 , 11:04 PM

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whitemares

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Are you expecting the population to way overfold to 4bets? You have tons of Ax to 4bet

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