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3bet vs HJ - Getting a little crazy OTT

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08-19-2019 , 05:16 PM

DooDooPoker

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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
SB ($10.00) [VPIP: 21% | PFR: 18.3% | AGG: 27.5% | 3-Bet: 5.1% | Hands: 480]
BB ($11.39) [VPIP: 54.2% | PFR: 16.8% | AGG: 45.1% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 158]
UTG ($8.77) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 32% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Hands: 26]
HJ ($9.70) [VPIP: 42.9% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 15]
HERO ($10.92) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 22.5% | AGG: 32.7% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | Hands: 101372]
BTN ($10.25) [VPIP: 21.4% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 37.5% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | Hands: 43]

Dealt to Hero: J

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.30, HERO Raises To $0.90, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $0.60

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.51 effective]
Flop ($1.95): 8

HJ Checks, HERO Bets $1.46 (Rem. Stack: 8.56), HJ Calls $1.46 (Rem. Stack: 7.34)

Turn ($4.87): 8

HJ Checks, HERO Bets $8.56 (allin)

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08-19-2019 , 07:15 PM

hyperknit

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i dont hate the line just worries about how we manage our range its easy to overbluff here and whats our value ?

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08-19-2019 , 07:20 PM

FreakDaddy

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Versus 42/21 player, I'd be checking that flop in position most of the time. The turn is fine.

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08-20-2019 , 02:59 AM

2019fish2019

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Propably checking flop with range, I guess you have some low frequency 2p here and then 66-88 for value?

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08-20-2019 , 10:52 AM

simplelessons

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

Versus 42/21 player, I'd be checking that flop in position most of the time. The turn is fine.

15 hands isn't really worth talking about.

@DDP I'd rather have a 9 or T in my hand then a Kc because his strongest hands are 99-JJ. Ac is probably also a better choice then Kc because we don't really want him to call us with a hand like AcTc, although we don't really know what villain will do with that hand. I'm not saying its bad, but we aren't exactly ripe with value combos on this board so its pretty easy to over bluff on this board. I guess what I'm saying is its good as long as you are aware of your range and don't get carried away.

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08-20-2019 , 12:07 PM

ionutd

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I like flop
you're surely over bluffing turn but if you start ship all the front and back fds ,he has to call a lot of stuff so at least you're making it hard for him.

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08-20-2019 , 01:38 PM

Fleetttt

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Originally Posted by 2019fish2019

Propably checking flop with range, I guess you have some low frequency 2p here and then 66-88 for value?

you shouldn't range check IP unless it's a very specific spot

against a fish it is absolutely not good

I am checking this combo flop as fish smashes this

sizing is far too big. He hits this super well and we have limited equity and barrel potential/IO

Turn is also thin as f

Checking to realise our equity is going to be much better

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08-20-2019 , 02:43 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by ionutd

I like flop
you're surely over bluffing turn but if you start ship all the front and back fds ,he has to call a lot of stuff so at least you're making it hard for him.

yeah I am definitely overbluffing but I do have some 7x in my range, although Villain has more.

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08-20-2019 , 02:44 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by simplelessons

Well at least I have one jack. I always find it hard to range peoples 3bet defending ranges OOP. I think people call too much in general preflop.

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08-20-2019 , 04:30 PM

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dynamite2006

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Against those I suspect are weak I'm inclined to bet both flop and turn smaller and shove river. Give him three chances to find a fold and if he really likes his hand he will usually let us know by the river.

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08-21-2019 , 03:01 AM

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2019fish2019

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Spent some time analyzing this hand and had a hard time getting the solver to jam the turn

KJcc was pretty much always checked no matter what ranges I tried and yes I was pretty wrong about the flop, was expecting a 25/75 split between bet/check but its closer the other way around

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08-21-2019 , 11:00 PM

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Swedishmonkey

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,713

Don't think you have to bet so big to get the job done on the flop.

Turn I don't mind but it is also very high risk

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