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10-13-2017 , 03:18 PM
Hello,
Villian is unknown
assuming a reasonable 3bet rangemay be Aj+, some comb of jj+,

Main reason to shove river is that he need to herocaller his Ax combinations
and the 9 on river is a really scary card?
Turnbet size seems weakish

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $14.88
BB: $7.55 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $10.15 (VPIP: 31.17, PFR: 23.38, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 78)
MP: $49.19 (VPIP: 31.71, PFR: 26.83, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 42)
CO: $18.78

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q T

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.85, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) 7 8 T
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.80, 2 players) A
SB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

River: ($3.40, 2 players) 9
SB bets $1.60, Hero raises to $8.35 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $6.30
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10-13-2017 , 04:05 PM
I think I'd fold pre, QTs is just too at behind the vast majority of a 3bing range given that he is unknown. I don't hate the river play but trying to get microstakes population off tp type hands in 3b pots is a dangerous game.
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10-13-2017 , 09:29 PM
Imo pre u can call QTs, river seems like a good play.
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10-13-2017 , 09:41 PM
You can't fold pre Btn vs BB here, that's far too nitty. For me shoving river is terrible, you have decent showdown value but by shoving you're never ever getting called by worse, I have no idea why you'd turn this hand into a bluff on a 4 to straight and Ace high board. It's burning money IMO, just flat river.

I'd also bet flop smallish for protection, probably bet turn smallish too and X back river assuming no donk or X turn fold river.
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10-13-2017 , 11:48 PM
pre is standard,
flop seems ok,

OTR...
Think this is a good play.. we block QJ and V shouldn't really have Jx (J9 might be the only one) in his range given that he checked the flop and started firing on A turn.

wp imo.
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10-14-2017 , 06:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AltoZZ
pre is standard,
flop seems ok,

OTR...
Think this is a good play.. we block QJ and V shouldn't really have Jx (J9 might be the only one) in his range given that he checked the flop and started firing on A turn.

wp imo.
Really? It's 10NL, villain could show up with 66, plenty of Jx, Ax suited that he decides to hero call with etc. And using your logic, Hero shouldn't have Jx either as he checked back flop. This bluff has to go through over 70% of the time to be profitable in the long run - I'm sure it's not a more profitable line than flatting, where you'll beat most of villain's bluffs anyway..
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10-16-2017 , 01:24 AM
There is A TON of value otf so bet 1/2 or something.
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10-16-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lovelessRAGE
There is A TON of value otf so bet 1/2 or something.
this.
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10-16-2017 , 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovelessRAGE
There is A TON of value otf so bet 1/2 or something.
+1

Folding pre is crazy also.

Not sure about river. I doubt our Tx is good here often but what are we repping? I doubt any sets x back flop other than 99. I'm not sure T9 raises river here. JJ either 4bets or bets flop. QJ bets flop probably.
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10-16-2017 , 11:49 AM
^ If we're checking flop with QT we're probably checking with JT so I'm assuming hero is repping that.

Betting flop is good as others have pointed out, as played shoving river looks good to me. Also think preflop call is good
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10-16-2017 , 01:16 PM
river is spew because for it to work villain has to be ******ed enough to bet his AK/AQ
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10-18-2017 , 05:43 AM
The fact that he is unknown can't make this hand fold preflop, it's very easy call. You can't open wide on BTN and fold to a 3bet just because someone is unknown.

Flop betting and checking, both is fine. but you have to know, that playing vs unknown should take you playing more balanced ranges then what you can play vs someone you have reads on. For example, on this board, you should have 77, 88, some TT, 78, T8s, J9s, then you want to bet some pair+draw type of hands that can call raise, hands like T9, Q9s, 89 etc, some strong draws, and some weak hands (depending on what size you want to use, you want to construct your range that way.

You can construct your range however you think is best for you and vs players you play on this site/limits...
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