everything bad ,was planning ch/raise flop
F we cb? size?
T?R? what best line ?


PartyGaming - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 121.56 BB
CO: 192.5 BB
BTN: 111.96 BB
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 108.38 BB
UTG: 103 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) J 6 7
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 12.02 BB, UTG calls 12.02 BB

River: (47.04 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, UTG bets 13.4 BB, Hero calls 13.4 BB

we can go a little larger pre oop.
we going to need some checks on flop but not as many as SRP, i think im ok with it AP. probably if we do cbet we go half pot.
turn worse for our range (or further equalises villains). i dont see a great reason to start betting here with no spade. AP id just check/call.
river - block bet in position huh, offers us a great price. whilst i dont think we ever decline the opportunity, i do worry that these kind of bets are pure sh*thousery (he almost exclusively does this with hands you lose to).

Yeah. You don't want to bet smaller with AA/KK than with everything else and SB raise size "should be" 4x.

Also, maybe check the AsAx/KsKx. I'd bet without the spade otf.

i'd rather bet river myself than x/c. not like he has a ton of 1spade hands in a 3bet pot (he has to 4b AKo sometimes and fold AQo sometimes)

looking at it in GTOwiz now, they have flop as a pretty high frequency bet which makes sense to me. this would be a high freq check against BTN or CO but the UTG opening range has fewer SCs in it (especially the 3x open size, which wiz isn't even taking into account here cuz this sim is vs 2.5) and might fold some of them to the 3b since your range should be tight. so we're actually doing pretty well. their most frequent sizing is half pot so i think you could simplify to either a half pot range bet or a half pot bet where you're betting 60-70% of your range and either would be fine. either way we should prob bet flop with this hand (in their multiple-flop-size sim they're betting your combo 86%, the vast majority of which are for their just over-half-pot sizing. the combos with the spade get bet slightly more actually, at like 88%, which is a common theme in the GTOwiz sims, since you have more equity).

then on the turn we're checking 85% of our range, which is also about how often we're checking our KK combos. now its switched and we're betting the non-spade slightly more often, which is again something i've seen a lot in the sims but i'm not sure why (anyone know?)

if we do bet half pot ott, otr the sim disagrees with me actually and checks your hand 82%, using a block sizing the rest of the time, and the Ks hands are checked even more frequently than that which again kinda confuses me because they block flushes and unblock another KJs which can call, but maybe they also unblock more of villain's bluffs idk. the KK that's bet most often is KdKc (28%) since it has neither the spades nor hearts from the flop, which weights villain's range toward weaker floats like hh hand that maybe have a pair or something now? looking at our AJs combos since that's a similar strength hand, it's basically always checking AJhh, always betting AJdd, and going half and half with AJcc. obv the difference between AJdd and AJcc is interaction with the nine, AJcc gives him more A9s but also more J9s, so that could make sense... except villain doesn't even have either of those in his range in this sim so i have no idea what's going on there. but that's the info for ya

Really wish I had a solver so I could waste half my life running sims. (I'm being somewhat sarcastic, yes, but I know it would happen.)

The advantage of GTOwizard is that its incredibly fast, it literally took me longer to type that up than it did to get that data. I got GTO+ recently too which is better for in-depth study but i use it a lot less so far because it does take a lot longer/more effort

If we're betting around 85% on one street and x'ing 85% the next, i'd probably just simplify to 75% or 100%. EV probably barely changes, and then you can use suits to randomize the 75%.

are you doing that randomization by betting the higher freq KK combos every time and lower ones never? whether that would work depends on how observant you think your opponents are ig. like using that style in this situation, we'd be betting the flop with all the Ks combos and half the non-Ks combos to get to 75%, and AA would probably be doing the same with the way we're rounding. so our x range would never have AsAx or KsKx, which depending on who you're playing may or may not be an issue. against most pools i think that'd probably be fine.

I actually do the 25% randomization for pairs based on the left card. So over time it would hit all combos equally. (If I randomize on a diamond, it's not always the left card.)

Edit: So if I want to bet KK 75%, I'll not bet if the left card is Kd, but bet every other situation.

Better than spending half your life trolling internet poker forums.

Thanks!

This wont hit all combos equally.

Bet large on flop. 3bet size pre should be around $6+ (since this is a 3x open, 11bb good for 2.5x opens, 13.2bb for 3x opens).

Large cbet flop. x/jam turn

I see what you mean, but the purpose is not to hit all combos equally but to converge on 25% betting or x'ing with all possible KK combos. Half of all KK combos contain a Kh and half of that, the Kh is on the left (over time).