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10-27-2020 , 03:44 PM

rlan07

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 35

Got in an interesting spot BvB. No reads on the player is this a fold on the river when he shoves? We block 2p's & sets, with AA, KK raising pre and very unlikely 2-2 calling flop. 35 likely to raise flop also which leaves him repping flush. What bluffs can villain have here on the river ... if any?

PokerStars - $0.16 Ante $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 144.38 BB
Hero (SB): 129.44 BB
BB: 136.38 BB
UTG: 167.31 BB
MP: 194.81 BB
CO: 137.06 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.75 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero bets 6.25 BB, BB calls 6.25 BB

Turn: (19.25 BB, 2 players) 2

Hero bets 15.63 BB, BB raises to 40.44 BB, Hero calls 24.81 BB

River: (100.13 BB, 2 players) K

Hero checks, BB bets 86.56 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

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10-27-2020 , 08:08 PM

Crab Cakes

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 596

I’m nit folding turn and feeling good knowing most of these guys aren’t gonna find enough bluffs.

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10-27-2020 , 10:34 PM

aner0

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did u notice flop has 3 hearts?

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10-28-2020 , 11:00 AM

rlan07

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 35

I can see 3 hearts yes so this is just a 100% fold spot without a flush ourselfs?

I think folding the turn is too tight as we block everything except the flush but maybe I'm wrong

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10-28-2020 , 11:51 AM

aner0

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why would you bet big with bottom two pair on a 3 heart flop (and OOP), that's my main issue with the hand

As played just fold turn, better to call with AK with the K of hearts or something like that than with this

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10-28-2020 , 12:46 PM

rlan07

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 35

My thinking was if he has a high heart he will call and then I can get him off it on a non heart turn however my reasoning might be wrong. What's better then on a monotone board such as this, bet small? Suppose when he calls big flop bet here I could check back turn but feel as if he is getting a free card if he has a heart. I'm am trying to improve everyday so a lot of my "logic" probably will be flawed atm

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10-28-2020 , 12:59 PM

JayGia

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 10

Fold turn.

Villain has all of the A-rag possibilities for a better 2pair and the 66/44 set possibilities that you don’t block, and more importantly nearly every low suited heart combo.

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10-28-2020 , 01:01 PM

aner0

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Originally Posted by rlan07

There's so many wrong things with this logic, but the main one is you have bottom 2 pair, and he can easily have a flush.

Yeah you're supposed to bet small flop or check.

This is a very common problem for beginners, where you're trying to range an opponent, but you focus down on a single portion of his range and you can't see that his range is composed of many other different things.
You are seeing him having a 1 heart hand very vividly, without taking into account that he has a lot of non heart air, board pairs without a heart, FLUSHES, even better 2p and sets

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10-28-2020 , 01:24 PM

rlan07

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 35

Thanks I get what you're saying I'm just getting used to playing with a thought to my whole range so sometimes struggle to visualise opponents or focus wrongly on a small portion as you are saying. I will work on this thanks for response

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10-28-2020 , 01:28 PM

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aner0

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Originally Posted by rlan07

Put way more emphasis on villains range than yours

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