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[2NLz] 88 makes set OTR on 4flush board

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06-22-2018 , 04:18 PM

Rikk

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Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37934726

BTN: $2.15 (107.5 bb)
SB: $2.14 (107 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)
UTG: $3.08 (154 bb)
MP: $2.14 (107 bb)
Hero (CO): $5 (250 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8

UTG raises to $0.06, MP folds, Hero calls $0.06, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.15) 3

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.33) T

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.33) 8

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.21, Hero calls $0.21

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vs unk

Not sure if I've talked myself into a call here with specious "I'm at the top of my range!" reasoning when it feels I'm beaten so often. Do we have to call something other than flushes here?

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06-22-2018 , 04:34 PM

sossinbergs

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The problem is it's so tough for V to be bluffing here and so easy for them to have value. Against super aggro opponents you could make the case for a call but I think against an unknown you just have to sigh fold. We have plenty of flushes in our range like you said, so we shouldn't be overfolding too much.

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06-22-2018 , 05:06 PM

simplelessons

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Can probably just fold flop vs a UTG open and cbet. Even when we are ahead its not usually by much and we will struggle to realize our equity unless V gives up and doesn't improve.

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06-22-2018 , 05:16 PM

dynamite2006

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Originally Posted by simplelessons

Can probably just fold flop vs a UTG open and cbet. Even when we are ahead its not usually by much and we will struggle to realize our equity unless V gives up and doesn't improve.

This. I probably peel one with 88 with a diamond.

As played, I am not seeing too many flushes that take his line. I think my desire to sleep well at night would cause me to call the river.

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06-22-2018 , 05:55 PM

Rikk

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Originally Posted by sossinbergs

I was trying to work out how many flushes I would have in this spot and I'm not sure how many I would have. I'd probably only x back the turn with FDs that also had SDV narrowing all my flushes to PPs with a dia. I guess at 150bb deep against an UTG range I'll be set mining more frequently so I might have more than I'd think.

Good point re flop fold too. I think it's close at these stakes because I'm seeing so many one-and-dones. Out of interest, what non-dia hands would you peel? TT/JJ no dia (if you have it)?

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