Thought I would get the collective thoughts here...

Is QQ OOP actually good enough to call off a 5B?
And if its a shorty is it more +EV to call off here?

Also my thoughts are that at these stakes QQ is effectively a monster PRE... Is this a common thought but wrong or one that seems legit?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137 BB (VPIP: 18.10, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 219)
SB: 142.5 BB (VPIP: 23.88, PFR: 16.42, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 68)
BB: 120 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 405 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): 117.5 BB
CO: 80 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 22)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 23 BB, BTN raises to 137 BB and is all-in, fold

BTN wins 47.5 BB

Prefer calling the 3bet from these positions. I don't think we should 4bet fold though.

Don't 4bet QQ if you plan on folding to a 5bet. I think calling instead of 4betting is better.

Yeah don't get me wrong, normally I flat or I'm just getting it in... but once I 4B my view was that at best I'm flipping once shoved on?

But it got me.to thinking if getting QQ in for for say 100-250bb's is ever that good/+ev?

Totally, but this time round it was against a player I deem not great so once I 4B and get jammed it made me think at best I'm flipping..

But as mentioned it got me thinking if getting it in with QQ is actually ever good/+ev say for 100-250bb (stack size) ?

So often it's rare in a cash game to actually see worse going allin pre

Don't 4b/f QQ, we're neutral EV against QQ+, AK.

Against an 18/14/6.5, QQ probably plays better as a call vs. a 4b. 4b/folding QQ not something I would like to be doing here. 4b KK+, likely AKs and calling AKo more than likely against this player.

It's never really going to be terrible to stack off QQ pre for 100bb. But from ep i usually elect to call 3bets , id also be flatting KK+ as'well though a good amount. When your opening later positions vs wider 3bet ranges it's usually going to be an easy stack off. You need to balance your ranges with bluffs though so you don't always just have QQ+ AK when you 4bet.

+1