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12-10-2017 , 06:52 PM
Not sure if this is correct?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 182 BB (VPIP: 34.48, PFR: 25.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 89)
SB: 319 BB (VPIP: 20.24, PFR: 18.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 173)
BB: 401 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 21.84, PFR: 12.64, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 90)
MP: 115 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
Hero (CO): 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 7

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 3 players) 9 3 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 17 BB, BTN raises to 66 BB, fold, Hero raises to 95 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 29 BB

Turn: (218.5 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (218.5 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows 6 7 (High Card, Nine)
(Pre 45%, Flop 30%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows 4 A (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 55%, Flop 70%, Turn 77%)
BTN wins 211 BB
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12-10-2017 , 09:42 PM
i'd say your line is too agressive. as played you are getting it in with the bad end of an oesd on a flush draw board. you have at least some equity, but if the money gets in here, you are likely not in good shape.

i'd call preflop (67s plays nice multiway in position) and leave my iso-stuff in the box for 32/19 type players. on the flop i'd try to realize my equity by checking and probably seeing a turn one bet.

i'd c/f fold turn if the price is not right.
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12-11-2017 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolNoob
i'd say your line is too agressive. as played you are getting it in with the bad end of an oesd on a flush draw board. you have at least some equity, but if the money gets in here, you are likely not in good shape.

i'd call preflop (67s plays nice multiway in position) and leave my iso-stuff in the box for 32/19 type players. on the flop i'd try to realize my equity by checking and probably seeing a turn one bet.

i'd c/f fold turn if the price is not right.
Yeah looking back at it I can see it's quite an aggro line tbf.
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12-11-2017 , 07:44 AM
For me 76s vs UTG open is a fold, especially one who is only opening 12% of his hands
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12-11-2017 , 08:43 AM
^this.
12 pfr, his UTG range has to be quite narrow, you're not getting a lot of folds here.
On the flop... Well, after his raise he's never folding, so your raise is more or less like the same as 'calling all in', had he shoved.

You barely have the odds to call against a pair (so close that the rake makes this -EV) and against a set it's a fold. This time he only has a flush draw but weirdly this is even worse for your hand.

I'm not sure I like the bet on the flop. If I want to be aggressive here I'd rather do it when making the final move. Not calling as an underdog. Having the odds to call doesn't mean a play was profitable, sometime it just means you put too many chip in bad so now you have the odds given the dead money, but it might have been better to just keep your share of that dead money.

And your draw isn't that strong, to go crazy like that on the flop imho. I like check call and even and check raise more than bet/shove with no fold equity.
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12-11-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by emibg
^this.
12 pfr, his UTG range has to be quite narrow, you're not getting a lot of folds here.
On the flop... Well, after his raise he's never folding, so your raise is more or less like the same as 'calling all in', had he shoved.

You barely have the odds to call against a pair (so close that the rake makes this -EV) and against a set it's a fold. This time he only has a flush draw but weirdly this is even worse for your hand.

I'm not sure I like the bet on the flop. If I want to be aggressive here I'd rather do it when making the final move. Not calling as an underdog. Having the odds to call doesn't mean a play was profitable, sometime it just means you put too many chip in bad so now you have the odds given the dead money, but it might have been better to just keep your share of that dead money.

And your draw isn't that strong, to go crazy like that on the flop imho. I like check call and even and check raise more than bet/shove with no fold equity.
cheers, appreciate it... Gotta keep these type of spots in check lol quite easy to get carried away play 4 tables of zoom for 'x' amount of time ...
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12-11-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ldmariodl28
For me 76s vs UTG open is a fold, especially one who is only opening 12% of his hands
i disagree. at least here in this spot.

first off calling utg is not terribad. we have ~30% equity vs utg opens range and getting this almost offered from pot odds alone preflop. we have a hand that plays relatively easy postflop and we will not get stuck in funny domination spots like it will happen with AT/KJ type of hands. and we are in position and can look for flops and runouts were we can take the pot away from utg. his range is so nicely defined and when he has it he'll let us know anyway.

but my main intention when calling with 67s here is to try to play as many pots with players that have fishy stats like button. and generally speaking: looking at how the hand played out it is a prime example why.
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12-12-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolNoob
i disagree. at least here in this spot.

first off calling utg is not terribad. we have ~30% equity vs utg opens range and getting this almost offered from pot odds alone preflop. we have a hand that plays relatively easy postflop and we will not get stuck in funny domination spots like it will happen with AT/KJ type of hands. and we are in position and can look for flops and runouts were we can take the pot away from utg. his range is so nicely defined and when he has it he'll let us know anyway.

but my main intention when calling with 67s here is to try to play as many pots with players that have fishy stats like button. and generally speaking: looking at how the hand played out it is a prime example why.
I dont know, small sample size of course, but Button is only a 34/25.. Its not like he is playing 40+% of his hands, which at NL2 would qualify is fishy. This is more a bad reg at NL2 in my opinion.

If you call PF your most likely going to be in a multi way pot, which we were in anyway with the raise.. and the Raise to me with this hand is not good because unless you can take this pot away on a bluff on the flop, or you hit a nice flop, at NL2 I think its a tough pot to win.. and that is the key thing to remember here, we are playing NL2, where people just dont like to fold.

Of course the flop going all in off the Button raise is a disaster here because all you have is an OESD with a flush draw on the board. There is no way Button is going to fold here, so the bet accomplishes nothing except getting it all in on a prayer you hit one of 8 outs.

But back to PF, the only way im isolating 76s is if I have a fish (40 VPIP or higher) in the CO who open raises so I can get a heads up pot vs him. Raising PF to the UTG doesnt accomplish much unless your goal is to bluff and take this down pre-flop, which again at NL2 wont happen much since people are just call crazy. I mean with these people, you can 4 bet and have a multi-way pot still because they just hate the fold button that much.
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12-13-2017 , 01:45 PM
I love 67s, it's easy to just fold pre.

AP xc flop or maybe bet smaller. Fold to the raise, AP.
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12-14-2017 , 04:53 AM
fold pre, we have better hands to bluff 3bet vs UTG with, fold to flop raise cause our equity sucks.

Edit: I's just c/c flop since do not see much folding equity in flop bet (button range looks actually very strong on that flop)
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