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08-09-2019 , 08:07 PM
Used my whole time bank. Thought about folding this time but couldn't get there. At least I didn't snap call and rip it. Still should have folded river with that sizing.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $6.33 (VPIP: 32.97, PFR: 18.68, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 91)
CO: $2.45 (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
Hero (BTN): $2.86
SB: $2.00 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
BB: $6.79 (VPIP: 64.37, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.04, fold, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.09, 2 players) Q 6 7
BB checks, Hero bets $0.04, BB calls $0.04

Turn: ($0.17, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BB raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.16

River: ($0.65, 2 players) T
BB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

Spoiler:
Hero mucks A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 80%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 8 T (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 20%, Turn 100%)
BB wins $1.53
Rake paid $0.06

$0.02 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.

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08-09-2019 , 08:30 PM
Raise at least 2.5x pre (I'd just 3x every position pre until ~10NL). AP the flop is fine, and I'd almost always fold the turn to a x/r from what looks like a passive whale. Fold river AP.

Last edited by WorldzMine; 08-09-2019 at 08:40 PM.
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08-09-2019 , 08:46 PM
Raise more PF for value. Like 3x. Cbet flop and fold to his X/r on turn. Too many 2P possibilities out there. I doubt he’s doing this with Qx.or a single medium pair. I think in this case your best case scenario is if he’s doing this with a draw but there are only a few SDs and he seems very passive on stats.
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08-09-2019 , 09:05 PM
Turn call is fine, river easy fold.
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08-09-2019 , 10:52 PM
I pot the flop
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08-10-2019 , 12:45 AM
Meh, it's not that bad. River is probably a fold, but when a person is playing 64% of hands you see a lot of weird **** like KJ and 54 here so I don't mind it that much.
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08-21-2019 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Raise at least 2.5x pre (I'd just 3x every position pre until ~10NL). AP the flop is fine, and I'd almost always fold the turn to a x/r from what looks like a passive whale. Fold river AP.
Will stick to 3x from each position until 10NL. When he bets turn is he representing T8s or sets or two pair? I'm trying to understand why that's such a clear fold. I'll find the strength to fold aces some day, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

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Originally Posted by chopari333
Raise more PF for value. Like 3x. Cbet flop and fold to his X/r on turn. Too many 2P possibilities out there. I doubt he’s doing this with Qx.or a single medium pair. I think in this case your best case scenario is if he’s doing this with a draw but there are only a few SDs and he seems very passive on stats.
Will raise more (3x) from now on until 10NL or so. What sizing should I have gone on a flop cbet? Folding turn makes sense now considering the 2P possibilities and I agree he's not likely going to x/r turn with Qx or a single medium pair. Seems more and more like a glaringly easy fold.

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Originally Posted by Iblis
Turn call is fine, river easy fold.
On turn when he x/r's, why aren't you concerned about 2P possibilities?

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Originally Posted by hyperknit
I pot the flop
Why go with that sizing? I'm struggling with my bet sizing right now.

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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Meh, it's not that bad. River is probably a fold, but when a person is playing 64% of hands you see a lot of weird **** like KJ and 54 here so I don't mind it that much.
I relied too heavily on the 64% unfortunately, wrong place wrong time. I will keep this in mind going forward but I agree the river is a clear fold.
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08-21-2019 , 09:33 PM
because people underbluff at the micros and you have one pair.
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08-21-2019 , 09:56 PM
because turn check raises at the micros are usually the nuts or close to it.
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08-21-2019 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
because turn check raises at the micros are usually the nuts or close to it.


Yeah but we’re getting pretty good odds on the turn call, riv not so much

Anyways flop pot is for big value and we unblock QX
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08-21-2019 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
because people underbluff at the micros and you have one pair.
Understood thanks.

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
because turn check raises at the micros are usually the nuts or close to it.
Good to know, thanks.

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Originally Posted by hyperknit
Yeah but we’re getting pretty good odds on the turn call, riv not so much

Anyways flop pot is for big value and we unblock QX
Flop pot for value and unblock Qx, understood thanks. Agreed odds on turn good river bad.
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08-21-2019 , 10:40 PM
Turn is good. X/raises might be more on the value side that's correct but with those odds, the redraw vs 2P, the 8x that might be actually bluffing sometimes and villain's huge vpip it'll never be a mistake to call there.
River is such an easy fold though.
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08-22-2019 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
Yeah but we’re getting pretty good odds on the turn call, riv not so much

Anyways flop pot is for big value and we unblock QX
The nuts or close to it, isn't two pair in my book. That was my point.

At other stakes, of course that's an auto call w/ redraw, semi-bluffs.. opponents range is just much wider.
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08-22-2019 , 01:47 AM
Go for bigger bets with value vs whales, they wont notice and will pay you off with garbage
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08-31-2019 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Iblis
Turn is good. X/raises might be more on the value side that's correct but with those odds, the redraw vs 2P, the 8x that might be actually bluffing sometimes and villain's huge vpip it'll never be a mistake to call there.
River is such an easy fold though.
I don't x/r at all right now, I'm keeping an eye out for potentially good spots to do it. Also I've been paying attention to possible redraws too. River is definitely an easy fold, I think that I would be able to fold this today. AA is still just a pair.

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
The nuts or close to it, isn't two pair in my book. That was my point.

At other stakes, of course that's an auto call w/ redraw, semi-bluffs.. opponents range is just much wider.
Other stakes seem absolutely wild to me right now.

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Originally Posted by 2019fish2019
Go for bigger bets with value vs whales, they wont notice and will pay you off with garbage
Copy that.
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