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2NL 6 Max A8s Advice on Blind Steal. 2NL 6 Max A8s Advice on Blind Steal.

03-21-2019 , 09:16 PM
Looking at this hand now I can't help but think I might have been playing this hand shortly after a bad beat. It has that feeling of I don't give a sh&t what this guys does I'm not folding. This hand doesn't typically fit my personality. My question doesn't have anything to do with how bad I played this hand. What I do see here is something I know I do quite often which is I will have a hand sim. to this where I will raise to steal the blind. Then I get 3-bet and I'm not sure if I should be folding to the 3-bet with this hand or calling to see a flop. What I find happening is that I will catch a pc. of the board and it ends up getting me in trouble. Again I think I might have been a bit tilted on this hand because other than a gut shot str8 I really didn't catch anything on this flop. I honestly don't see a problem trying to steal a blind with this hand and my position but should I be folding this hand on the 3-bet and eliminate playing this hand poorly (as I clearly did) or should I be calling the 3-bet and reevaluating the flop?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $3.11 (VPIP: 29.91, PFR: 19.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.74, Hands: 540)
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $3.68 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 4.94, Hands: 217)
BB: $2.56 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $2.00 (VPIP: 27.84, PFR: 22.12, 3Bet Preflop: 6.13, Hands: 1,253)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, SB raises to $0.18, fold, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) 9 T 6
SB bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27

Turn: ($0.92, 2 players) 4
SB bets $0.66, Hero calls $0.66

River: ($2.24, 2 players) T
SB bets $2.57 and is all-in, fold
2NL 6 Max A8s Advice on Blind Steal. Quote
03-22-2019 , 01:06 AM
At least you folded river.

Fold to the 3Bet or 4!/fold to a jam... Actually, at nl2 probably just fold to the 3!, definitely fold flop, and fold the turn.

The open/blind steal attempt is fine, but calling the 3! isn't. It kind of stops being a blind steal when you flat the 3!. Passively flatting flop and turn, sort of rules out turning the hand into a bluff.
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03-22-2019 , 04:28 AM
fold turn

always a call pre from these positions
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03-22-2019 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
fold turn

always a call pre from these positions
Why when he’s 5% 3bet and we’re not deep? Hard to find this profitable
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03-22-2019 , 05:41 AM
smallish sample, guy is fishy with his gap, position, nut potential, bit of sdv def make pre profitable
can you imagine how much of your btn opening range you'd end up folding if you folded A8s? if you open 35-45% otb and only defend the top 10% you can see how this is a problem
I guess you can consider mainly 4b A7s/A6s as the worst AXs but these are profitable calls as well and just a preference on how you construct your 4b range. can call these and 4b A5o/A4o type of hands instead, or some KXs
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03-22-2019 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
smallish sample, guy is fishy with his gap, position, nut potential, bit of sdv def make pre profitable
can you imagine how much of your btn opening range you'd end up folding if you folded A8s? if you open 35-45% otb and only defend the top 10% you can see how this is a problem
I guess you can consider mainly 4b A7s/A6s as the worst AXs but these are profitable calls as well and just a preference on how you construct your 4b range. can call these and 4b A5o/A4o type of hands instead, or some KXs
Id say the sample is big enough. Why would only defending the top 10% against someone who’s only 3betting 5% be a problem until he adjusts? His range dominates us always. His gap suggests he’s not solid so can be said he’s robotically only 3betting QQ+ and AQ+ and not re-stealing ever
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03-22-2019 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Havick
At least you folded river.
LOL yeah the idiot switch finally went off.

Thanks everyone for your input. I appreciate the debate on this as it allows me to see what others are thinking in this situation.
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03-22-2019 , 04:20 PM
Standard call of the 3-bet in BTNvSB. Standard call on the flop (although it's not exactly printing money) as you also have the BDFD. Fold turn when you didn't pick up any equity and villain showed his commitment to the hand. You would continue with A8dd for instance, as well as some much better hands (straights, sets, two pairs), but not just a gutter+overcard.
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03-23-2019 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Standard call of the 3-bet in BTNvSB. Standard call on the flop (although it's not exactly printing money) as you also have the BDFD. Fold turn when you didn't pick up any equity and villain showed his commitment to the hand. You would continue with A8dd for instance, as well as some much better hands (straights, sets, two pairs), but not just a gutter+overcard.
I like this read.
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