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05-17-2017 , 10:46 PM
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    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37727389

    BTN: $25 (100 bb)
    Hero (SB): $47.29 (189.2 bb)
    BB: $37.79 (151.2 bb)
    UTG: $27.56 (110.2 bb)
    MP: $26.37 (105.5 bb)
    CO: $46.02 (184.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K J
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BB folds, CO calls $1.25

    Flop: ($3.75) T 2 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.55, CO calls $1.55

    Turn: ($6.85) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.66, CO calls $3.66

    River: ($14.17) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $10.15, Hero raises to $40.33 and is all-in, CO calls $28.91




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    05-18-2017 , 03:03 AM
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    05-18-2017 , 03:04 AM
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    Quote:
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    Dont.
    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.
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    05-18-2017 , 03:07 AM
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    Quote:
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    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.
    +1
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    05-18-2017 , 12:03 PM
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    Quote:
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    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.
    what reads? am I not seeing part of the post or s/t? .... and seems like a crazy line to me...
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    05-18-2017 , 12:40 PM
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    Quote:
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    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.
    lol wp
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    05-18-2017 , 06:06 PM
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    hey guys, sorry for not adding any villain read, it's because I didn't have any. I ask about this hand cause I thought in the moment I could make folds from any flush but the A high one, now that I see the hand more carefully his range is the flushes and I dont have much on mine, also, if the pot was 3b pre it makes more likely that if he happens to have the flush otr it will be most times A high or K high, if not Q high.
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    05-18-2017 , 08:59 PM
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    People don't tend to value bet thinly enough when obvious draws complete so he's folding less often than you think.

    People don't tend to check/shove flushes on the river for fear of river being checked through, so the bluff isn't that credible.

    People are far more likely to make a bad call than a good fold, especially unknown players at micro stakes.
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    05-19-2017 , 06:01 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BL42024
    what reads? am I not seeing part of the post or s/t? .... and seems like a crazy line to me...


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    05-19-2017 , 07:12 AM
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    CO only really donks flushes, maybe some sets as blocker bets (to stop you pot controlling top pairs etc.), but if that's what V was trying to achieve I would expect a smaller river bet. The weakest flushes he has here, are maybe 10 high's, that's assuming V doesn't raise flop - I think it's unlikely you're going to get a fold (his 3rd/4th nut flushes etc. also have strong blockers to your nut flush combo's). I'd like to see a strong blocker in your hand, such as the K/A of hearts if you are going to take a line like this.
    Last edited by DollarWill; 05-19-2017 at 07:19 AM.
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    05-19-2017 , 10:47 AM
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    Why do **** like this in micros?
    Some ego problems?
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    05-19-2017 , 10:59 AM
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    Quote:
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    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.
    Buahahahaha Good 1

    Hey we're deep, dont 3B this small, the plan is to stack off as much as we can, we need to start creating a good pot and this is a really good hand to do it, this is in order to maximize your profits on the long run.
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    05-19-2017 , 12:05 PM
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    I would have rather a 3ple barrel bluff AP.

    Personally i check/give up otf, we have decent equity to fire a CBet w 2 overs+bd str8 but being OOP on this board we got close to 0 fold equity. Vill is gonna float us a lot + we have reverse imp odds if a heart-ball that benefits us benefits vill even more.

    ''People don't tend to check/shove flushes on the river for fear of river being checked through, so the bluff isn't that credible.''> +1

    glgl
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    05-19-2017 , 05:30 PM
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    Quote:
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    I would have rather a 3ple barrel bluff AP.

    Personally i check/give up otf, we have decent equity to fire a CBet w 2 overs+bd str8 but being OOP on this board we got close to 0 fold equity. Vill is gonna float us a lot + we have reverse imp odds if a heart-ball that benefits us benefits vill even more.

    ''People don't tend to check/shove flushes on the river for fear of river being checked through, so the bluff isn't that credible.''> +1

    glgl
    Anything but this.
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    05-19-2017 , 06:19 PM
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    Quote:
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    With the reads OP gives, I have to disagree. I think this is incredibly standard but only against this specific kind of player.


    Too funny, man
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    05-25-2017 , 09:00 AM
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    Quote:
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    Buahahahaha Good 1

    Hey we're deep, dont 3B this small, the plan is to stack off as much as we can, we need to start creating a good pot and this is a really good hand to do it, this is in order to maximize your profits on the long run.
    1.75 is 3.5x original raise. I thing sizing is fine. As I understand we are bluff 3-betting, so I would prefer to see a fold. Could you explain please?

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    05-25-2017 , 09:05 AM
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    pre sizing is quite bad this deep, co can prolly flat his entire range profitably lel

    ap this is beyond ******ed even with reads mentioned by isolated, oh wait.
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    05-25-2017 , 10:40 AM
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    more pre, xf riv
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    05-25-2017 , 04:11 PM
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    Quote:
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    pre sizing is quite bad this deep, co can prolly flat his entire range profitably lel

    ap this is beyond ******ed even with reads mentioned by isolated, oh wait.
    Tx for the nice feedback man, improved all my game in only one commentary
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    05-25-2017 , 04:54 PM
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    Tx for the nice feedback man, improved all my game in only one commentary
    ye man, thats the effect i have on people
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