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03-18-2019 , 10:25 AM
Was playing on Ignition so no info on the other players.

UTG: $24.05
MP: $39.06
CO (Hero): $40.07
BU: $24.38
SB: $21.35
BB: $25.00

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K♠ Q
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.00, BU folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.75, MP folds

Flop: ($2.35) 6 8♠ K (2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.30, BB calls $1.55

Turn: ($6.95) 4♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.22, BB calls $4.22

River: ($15.39) 10 (2 players)
BB bets $17.48 (allin), Hero?

On the flop I'd imagine his leading range consists of Kx, some 2 pair, sets and straight draws. I raised mainly to get value from his draws and weaker Kx. KQ seems like one of our strongest hands other than sets and AK so I felt like I had to punish his small bet.

The turn is a bad card as one of villain's straight draws hits (75) and realistically none of our hands improve. To be honest not sure whether we should bet for value or check for some pot control. Leaned towards the bet because otherwise we would only be betting AK + sets for value. Any thoughts or feedback on the turn?

The river is another bad card, villain's other draw hits and his K10 improves to 2 pair. When villain donk shoves he's saying he has a straight or set? Maybe K10 for 2 pair? Thoughts on whether we should call or fold river.
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03-18-2019 , 10:32 AM
typically the small donks are often draws and typically the large donks on rivers by whales are not bluffs and seeing as 79 and 75 both got there I'm pretty comfortable folding.
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03-18-2019 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
typically the small donks are often draws and typically the large donks on rivers by whales are not bluffs and seeing as 79 and 75 both got there I'm pretty comfortable folding.
Thanks I thought the same thing. Any feedback with my decisions on the flop and turn?
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03-18-2019 , 11:00 AM
Increase sizings slightly as on blanks you'll want to jam river and the spr on river is like 1.1 atm
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03-18-2019 , 11:07 AM
You played it fine, river is always a TT, KT type hand.
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03-18-2019 , 11:11 AM
Not sure how I feel about raising the flop on a dry board. I know 1/3 bet is small, but if he 3-bets we can't continue and we get rid of whatever bluffs he has.

Last edited by Markulous; 03-18-2019 at 11:20 AM.
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03-18-2019 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Markulous
Not sure how I feel about raising the flop on a dry board. I know 1/3 bet is small, but if he 3-bets we can't continue.
I'm also conflicted with regards to the flop action.

Usually I treat minbet-donks as if it were a check and raise if I were planning to bet or call if I were planning to check.

In this spot, the sizing is not far from the one I would use for a c-bet on this board texture, so I'm not too thrilled about the raise and lean towards a call.
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03-18-2019 , 12:01 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys

Looked up the hand afterwards (you can see other players cards 24h after the hand on ignition) and villain had 78.
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03-18-2019 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by opodawg
Thanks for the feedback guys

Looked up the hand afterwards (you can see other players cards 24h after the hand on ignition) and villain had 78.
He's repping 97 or KT. I guess TT maybe, but don't understand why TT would donk bet the flop. I don't think villain realizes what he's doing with his bluff though.
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03-18-2019 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by opodawg
Thanks for the feedback guys

Looked up the hand afterwards (you can see other players cards 24h after the hand on ignition) and villain had 725NL Zone River Decision825NL Zone River Decision.
Sick play.
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03-18-2019 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Sick play.
Is it the perfect bluff candidate
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03-18-2019 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by opodawg
Thanks for the feedback guys

Looked up the hand afterwards (you can see other players cards 24h after the hand on ignition) and villain had 78.
Didn't know doodoo was back at 25z
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03-19-2019 , 09:07 AM
Against a fishy I think theoritically we have to raise it up on the flop, and in case of c/c we have to barrel the turn for value as you played. I would also fold to the river donkovbai, fish they do it with really strong hands most of the time(as we see, there could be exceptions).

It was a readless game, and when players donk we could assume that we play against a recreational player, so I think that the flop raise was the right play. But if you would have information about your opponent, maybe he was an aggrofish, then smooth-calling would be the right way I think. We keep his range wide, and represent a weaker range. Against agro-fish players I think that it would be more +EV play than raising.

It's cash game, we don't really want to play huge pots with only one pair, so I like calling on the flop, and giving him space to fire. But against a readless fishy opponent I would still prefer raising on the flop.
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03-20-2019 , 05:15 AM
if you want to put money in on flop and turn, bet and raise big
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