stats are deceiving on acr, on pokerstars you can expect someone with reasonable preflop stats to be reasonable

on acr, they do idiotic **** all the time at 50nl blitz

Yeah I've heard ignition is softer from some other people as well. No rakeback but it might be worth it to make the move.

I would certainly be interested if your style of play would work for you. A couple things to consider.


1. Don't do it until you're comfortable at 25nl or are okay with playing normal tables. For whatever reason, the Zone (fast) tables hardly ever have 10nl running. Right now, they have 5nl, 25nl, 50nl and 200nl with 50+ players on each.

2. HUDs don't work on Zone tables as far as I know.

Yeah that is kind of the main reason I might stay on ACR. I am trying to learn how to get better at exploiting opponents tendencies based on HUD stats.

I just added a bunch of stats to my HUD. In my last coaching session, my coach told me he has 50 stats on his HUD. I only have like 20, so I need to work on that. And if I move to Ignition, I'll be abandoning that skill set (I guess for Zone - you do much more pool analysis since you can't do HUD individual analysis).

The discussion of cold calling player amount preference is interesting.

The hand is also interesting, I like the flop X/R.

I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said, however.

DDP can you do me a favor when you get a chance if DriveHud has these filters?

Pull your last 40k or so hands, and apply the following filters...

1. Hands where you RFI, Iso, or 3bet.
2. Number of players to the flop is 3 or more.

Don't need any graphs. Just curious how many hands total, positive or negative green/red line, and your W$WSF.

Then if you can do the same with only 2 players to the flop.

No rush.


TIA

Okay lol man this is crazy. I solved this hand using 50nl rake ranges, 100BB Effective stacks and a 5 SPR.

Ready for this?

Flop is almost a range donk if we use 25% sizing (It mixes 25/33/50%).

If we node lock to never donking, and Villain cbets 33% sizing (which is a slight mistake - he should be going 50% sizing). UTG should be almost MIN XRING (that's right min check-raising because of SPR) at over 30% frequency.

I knew that we should be using different XR sizing's based on board texture but I didn't realize it was the same with SPRs.

This hand is mostly check-raised if we never donk flop.

Sweet, i got the sizing OTT right. It is a 1/4 sizing OTT since SPR is low.

That turn is amazing for you (wasn't sure why people were saying the 6 wasn't a good card). The best cards are 8/7/6 in that order once we XR the flop and get to the turn.

Worst cards for range are K/J/Q

If we are playing GTO and we min XR flop and use 25% sizing OTT (assuming we don't Donk lead ever).

Our hand is 100% frequency bet. And river is always a jam. This hand is our highest frequency combo bluff.



Note that my UTG range vs an HJ3BET is most likely tighter than population plays since they under 4bet/call too many 3bets OOP.

yeah ill check it out and report back

I'm not really surprised. Thats a bad board for hj and a bad turn. I can lookup his hand tomorrow but I think he probably had AA or something very similar. My gut said that we had a good bluff candidate since we don't block diamonds but I think his range is skewed towards hands that aren't going to fold.

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Okay so I just did my whole 10nl blitz database which is 150k hands.

Filters I used were: PFR or 3Bet
Flop went Multiway: Yes

I only have 346 hands (I guess because it is mostly regs in my pool?)

I think with the way you played it, giving up OTR was good. His range was too strong.

Appreciate. Unfortunately I just noticed your filters are wrong. Notice that your 3-bet is at 100%. For whatever reason, when you select "Did 3-Bet" it's only going to pull hands where you 3-bet someone.

I just messed around in DriveHud and figured out what filters to use (all in the Standard Filters tab).





Thanks again and sorry for making you jump through hoops. I'll be posting mine as well.

Oh damn okay sorry I messed that up.

I found those filters - here is what I got.

it kind of makes sense and it is probably true since it is bretty much a MMA quote but it always confused me since we pretty much now that a higher SPR favors the IP player.

Thanks again.

So first question. Do you really c-bet 61% of the time in MW pots?

I'm playing different strategies based on the cold callers.

For instance, if I am against a 40 vpip fish in the CO and another OTB.

And I have AA, and the flop comes 754tt. It should usually be a range check. But these guys won't exploit me so I'll just bet my hand to get value.

Likewise if I am against two nits, ill range check instead.

Yeah it seems like a contradictory quote. But I don't think it's that clear cut.

We have to get through 5 other people's ranges when we raise UTG. We don't want to invest too much money when OOP against 5 ranges.

It's like in the SBvsBB. Yeah we are OOP in the SB and higher SPR favors the IP player. But we still raise to 3x. Why? Because BB already has 1 BB invested so he could profitably call almost his whole range if we go smaller.

I think other factors take priority over SPR when thinking about preflop sizings.

Our stats in MW pots weren't all that different except for how often we c-bet. I might be playing too passive in MW pots which is likely why my overall WWSF is only 43.

In HU pots, my redline is through the roof and WWSF is much higher.

but why do we raise to 3x ? maybe because that is what we have always been doing? i dont know. i think it is very complicated and there are obviously many factors that weigh in. it is just one of the little things that drive me crazy lol.

fwiw i think if we would run 2 preflop solves (for 2.2bb and for 2.5bb) i think there would not be a real ev difference for either sizing.

Yeah I'm not 100% for certain. There might be a cutoff in sizing for SBvsBB where BB now just can't profitably call his whole range.

Any EV difference is significant though (2.2 vs 2.5) since it is a high frequency action.

Using multiple preflop sizings would most likely be better, but that is almost impossible to do without sizing tells.

You should do some pool analysis since you can't use a HUD. Guys like Brokenstars did extensive pool analysis on ignition back when he was crushing 200nl I believe.

I don't play the fast tables so i can use my HUD.

I probably am just not using it to my full advantage.

Lol I always get confused by this too. Really annoying. Maybe there is some sort of non-linear SPR relation in game theory we are unaware of.

give up