Opponent is unknown.
Without any further info on the oppoent, we always have to fold here right?
Or do they ever bluff enough to make a call viable?

Not sure if everyone takes this approach but I’m pretty much always 3betting pre here.

This was multi-way so I’d proceed with caution but not folding to the x/r.

Yep, 100% 3-betting pre-flop.

OK, I only 3bet TT in this spot 20% of the time.

Have a look at the preflop ranges on Zenith. I don’t follow religiously as doubt there were created for micro rake but they are extremely helpful with preflop imo. They have this as 100% 3bet.

thanks I'll take a look at those

General advice is not to have cc ranges unless you are on BB, and on the BTN if there is a weaker player behind you.
I think we can call and continue ott if we pick up some equity

Why we can fold this even heads-up:
- We play vs UTG range
- This is a range check for UTG -> very strong checking range
- Our perceived range is very strong (we should probably bet 1/3 here btw)
- All those things considered without a we can start folding

Why we can fold this multiway:
- Both players are uncapped when you bet (UTG has his full range and BB has all sets and a few 2pairs)
- Above makes your and UTG range stronger AP

Folding is good OTF.

I also don't have a CC range in these positions pre.

What Shipnickle said, also you shouldn't have a MP flatting range.

Pre can be fine if you have weaker players behind you. I can see from stacksizes that you have at least 2 weaker players still to act including one in the BB, so I don't mind flatting, especially if UTG is somewhat tight. It can quickly become bad though if BTN or SB are at all squeeze-happy.

Fold flop as played.

3b pre

Well, they are occasionally bluffing here...

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Interesting. Personally, I actually haven't been playing a 3bet only strategy MP vs UTG. Perhaps it is better? I've also been cc TT. In fact, I've been cc JJ-22 trying to hit sets.

Anyways, I think when UTG checks we for sure wanna bet, but smaller. We're trying to fold out hands that missed like his lower Axs that didn't pair up and has no FD/BDFD, some AJo/ATo, KTs (again, with wrong suit) etc. And we can achieve this by betting smaller, by betting big you're just burning $ trying to achieve the same thing a small bet would've done + you're getting yourself into dicy spots like this.

I am calling villains x/r though on this board with this hand. I don't agree with what @Shipnickel said,

- All those things considered without a we can start folding

We're unblocking some of his FD's by not having the T. AT, KT, JT, T9

I mean, you said villain is unknown (maybe fish), and he is deepstacked, maybe he gets creative and x/r a hand like J:clubs:T:clubs: with the BDFD + gutter

TL;DR: Bet smaller OTF. Call x/r and see how villain reacts OTT, fold turns, probably.

Thanks for all your thoughts, especially @Shipnickle, this is very helpful.

Most people say I shouldn't have a flatting range in MP, from what limit on would you start developing a flatting range in positions other than BB and BU?

What about when we have pocket pairs like 77-88?
couldnt calling in MP be a profitable set mine?

Raise or fold at certain frequencies. You can mix in some minor amounts of flatting with those hands OTB vs UTG/MP. The rake is the main reason for mostly never flatting outside the BB, and it's effect on WR is much worse than newer/novice players expect, because they almost universally over-exaggerate to themselves their ability for superior post-flop play.

Problem with calling is that a lot of people (including me) 3bet/squeeze a lot vs such calls.
Calling the 3bet and folding without the set is very expensive in the long run.

3bet by yourself and pokerlife becomes easy :-)