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01-17-2019 , 02:39 AM

#76

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

Mono flops are checked at a very high frequency, and c-betting 1/4 pot as an exploit is, well, very exploitable.

What exactly is the average opponent realistically going to do about it?

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01-17-2019 , 03:47 AM

#77

BornToRun

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine

Yeah okay. Keep betting weak hands on bad boards while OOP and tell me how that works out for you long term.

The problem is this response just further proves my point, as your misunderstanding of poker theory is such that having a debate with you is actually pointless. You keep talking about 'bluffing' flops, which means everything you say is gibberish.

I also like how you keep telling Dodo that he won't be a winning player, when I'd imagine he's got much better results than you.

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01-17-2019 , 04:08 AM

#78

ChipsNcrisps

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine

The point of the article flew over your head. Not at all surprising as you seem like one of the least intelligent people on these forums.

the point of this article bahahahahahah
ye sorry i didnt realise we had to fold at the micros

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01-17-2019 , 06:19 AM

#79

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If you're going to talk big, post your bb/100. Otherwise humble yourselves. Also it's always the same people slinging **** in these threads...

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01-17-2019 , 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ojune

Well I agree with that and at the risk of repeating myself, you should try to expand your analysis to more than just equity %.

You could try Matthew Janda's books, they helped me a lot in my understanding of poker.

I would love to take the time and study something more, I am actually quite clueless on where exactly I should focus. I am curious, is there something more important than our long term equity and how to maximize it (and realize it) with any decision?

I'll certainly check them out, thanks!

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What exactly is the average opponent realistically going to do about it?

Most Vs I run into are a little better than average.

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Originally Posted by mediacalc

If you're going to talk big, post your bb/100. Otherwise humble yourselves. Also it's always the same people slinging **** in these threads...

Ikr?

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01-17-2019 , 08:40 AM

#81

Ojune

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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr

I am curious, is there something more important than our long term equity and how to maximize it (and realize it) with any decision?

There are different kind of equity, a flush draw's equity is very robust. It will massively over-realize its equity. The same goes for an overpair on a dry board. Hands that are vulnerable and can't improve much will under-realize their equity. You have to be aware of the composition of both ranges, not just the %.

And of course all the other considerations.. poker is a complicated game. Check the books indeed, it should help you a lot especially if you have an analytical mind.

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01-17-2019 , 08:51 AM

#82

Flpmethntsdlr

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But ofc (in my best Sean Connery voice).

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01-17-2019 , 11:54 AM

#83

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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr

Most Vs I run into are a little better than average.

Thats an oxymoron and you haven't even read Janda's books so go ahead and cut out the sarcasm.

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01-17-2019 , 01:04 PM

#84

Flpmethntsdlr

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Sarcasm is a tool for the weak. Most regs on ACR are pretty good.

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01-17-2019 , 02:12 PM

#85

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Originally Posted by bearer

Thats an oxymoron and you haven't even read Janda's books so go ahead and cut out the sarcasm.

The application of NL one? Are the recent ones any good?

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01-17-2019 , 05:08 PM

#86

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The latest Janda book is a poker bible as far as I'm concerned. You blaspheme with your very question.

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01-18-2019 , 12:17 AM

#87

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Originally Posted by bearer

The latest Janda book is a poker bible as far as I'm concerned. You blaspheme with your very question.

Does that make the first Janda book the Satanic Verses then?

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01-18-2019 , 04:38 AM

#88

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Nah Applications is the GOAT too bar the combo work.

If anybody ever wants to instantly shut me the fook up don't reference a non node-locked solve, quote a passage from a Janda scripture or cardrunners vid.

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01-18-2019 , 11:09 AM

#89

mediacalc

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Originally Posted by bearer

What's wrong with the combo work?

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01-18-2019 , 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mediacalc

What's wrong with the combo work?

Really complicated and hard to explain, but the first Janda approximation of early streets was based on indifference and MDF, which was very ambitious and a step forward in strategy construction, but ultimately incorrect on those early streets.

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01-18-2019 , 11:32 AM

#91

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

Is that like not defending MDF if our range is very behind villain range?

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01-18-2019 , 11:36 AM

#92

robert_utk

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Originally Posted by mediacalc

Is that like not defending MDF if our range is very behind villain range?

Yes, somewhat, and the subject is still debated to this day.

———->(Insert shameless plug for the poker theory subforum here)

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01-18-2019 , 01:43 PM

#93

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Even before (I knew) solvers had disproven that aspect I found the detail superfluous. There was one part he had flush draw combos in both the value and bluff categories in the same hand and that was when I zoned out.

But the holistic principles were cutting edge and are still relevant and I'd imagine that anybody who mastered the combo work in all its detail at the time would have been considered a world class player.

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