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[20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review

09-20-2017 , 05:09 AM
Hello Folks,

Had me worst Losing Session yesterday on Betfair Euro Tables (-5 BIs) after beein 5 BIs up .. and well ... I don't know was it Tilt, or Bad Play, or Bad Luck or Both ... I have no Idea ... Just want to go through a couple of Hands.

In general the Players at the 20NL Tables on Betfair are very aggressive.
The Fish are aggro and the Regs anyway. They attack weak Plays without hesitation and 3Betting is going on a Lot, Positional Awareness is mandatory and they really force you to think about and adjust your Ranges ... Especially when the Pool is small, which happens all too often and Tables are down to 3-4MAX.

On Top of that the SpeedTables at Betfair have a yooge Bug ... HM2 HUD is not working on multiple Tables ... That means if you open more than one Table ... The HUD will only work on one of them - Which is pretty ****ty - Thanks Betfair 4 solving that Problem, NOT.

Without furda ado ...

Ok, the first Hand was a Standard Opening.
Depending mostly on my Opponents 3Betting Stats I would Fold here like 75% of the Time and Fold 35% of the Time.
I had no Stats on Villain (No HUD), except Sensing that he was a Regular.
So I determined him to have a good Portion of Mediocre/Weak 3Betting Hands in his Range as well - Also we were both rather deepish.

The Flop itself was a Dream and he CBets.
I thought on such a Flop (Paired/TwoTone) he would CBet his entire Range and probably not thinking about my Range at all.

I determined his Range to look like this.

Draws:

All kinds of Flush Draws, mostly spearheaded by BW Highcards.
Maybe even some Straight Draws/FD+SDs ... Like JTs, T8s, 86s.

Trips: A9s, T9s, 98s

Overpairs: TT+

Quads: 99

I don't know weather or not a case could be made here for raising, but I thought that there are so many Turn Cards that could improve his Range, that I decided to Call.


Now the Queen was such a Card obv and when he Bets the Turn I thought he either has ...

AA, KK, AQ, AQ, QJs or (Less Likely) 99 or FDs.

He could also bet TT, JJ for Value, if he Thinks that I am going to call with 66, 88 and TT (If he has JJ) or to charge me fore any possibly FD/SD Combination.

So I decided to Flat.

Another Queen pops up - He jams, I and thought ok -- This is probably the worst Card in the Deck for me.

So my Question:

Is this a Fold?

Would he jam AA/KK or a Flush here?

    IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $26.43 (132.2 bb)
    BB: $20 (100 bb)
    UTG: $23.03 (115.2 bb)
    Hero (MP): $27.11 (135.6 bb)
    CO: $25.75 (128.8 bb)
    BTN: $21.51 (107.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 7
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, SB raises to $2.20, BB folds, Hero calls $1.60

    Flop: ($4.60) 9 9 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

    Turn: ($8.20) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $4.80, Hero calls $4.80

    River: ($17.80) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $17.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.63

    Spoiler:
    Results: $53.06 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 9 9 7 Q Q
    SB showed 9 9 and won $51.06 ($24.63 net)
    Hero mucked 7 7 and lost (-$26.43 net)


    The Second Hand, was against an Hyper Aggressive Maniac who is 3Betting In and Out of Position almost anything ... Had 71 Hands on him and his 3Betting Stat overall was 50%.

    Postflop he was betting and overbetting anything From Air, to Mediocre and Strong Hands like crazy.

    In a previous Hand he was 3betting me OOP with K7o from the Blinds and I flatted with ATo, I hit my Ace and Stacked off against him Betting 2 Streets and Jamming the River, holding nothing but a Gutter.

    Then this Hand came occured ...

    I knew I should have 4Bet, but for whatever Reason I didn't because I had UTG in Mind, who is a solid Regular and opens a Strong Range from Early Positions.

    Therefore I just flatted the 3Bet and thought that if UTG Folds and no A/K shows up on the Flop, I coud Trap Villain into making a costly Mistake.

    So my Question is .. How would you have played this Hand and why?

      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $21.68 (108.4 bb)
      BB: $20.20 (101 bb)
      UTG: $21.45 (107.3 bb)
      MP: $44.29 (221.5 bb)
      CO: $31.38 (156.9 bb)
      BTN: $27.48 (137.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.60, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.70, BB folds, MP calls $1.20

      Flop: ($5.60) 3 7 2 (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $3.92, Hero raises to $11.40, MP folds, BTN raises to $25.68 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.48 and is all-in

      Turn: ($45.36) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($45.36) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $45.36 pot ($2.00 rake)
      Final Board: 3 7 2 A 5
      Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$21.68 net)
      MP mucked and lost (-$1.80 net)
      BTN showed 4 6 and won $43.36 ($21.68 net)


      The Third Hand occured against a Regular. Although I had no Stats on him (Again, No HUD), I supposed he might be a Regular and therefore Aggressive, especially in Position.

      The Flop was a Standard CBet and I supposed he might be calling with all kinds of Hands here ... Any J, any 2nd, 3rd Pair ... Any FD and even peeling occasionally with maybe AJ, AT, Ax and Kx.

      The Turn I checked because I thought, if he catched any Pair, Draw Pair+Draw chances are he's going to attack the Turn, sensing Weakness from my Side ... Which would give me the Chance to Reraise and make him make costly Calls in order to complete Draws ore Call my Down with weak 1-Pairs if he doesnt believe me.

      The River was a Q, and I CBet ... He, however reraises me suddenly.

      So my Question is ... Would you fold?

        IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (SB): $35.03 (175.2 bb)
        BB: $50.16 (250.8 bb)
        CO: $34.22 (171.1 bb)
        BTN: $13.05 (65.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with J 8
        2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BB calls $0.40

        Flop: ($1.20) 3 2 J (2 players)
        Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

        Turn: ($2.40) 8 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BB checks

        River: ($2.40) Q (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.80, BB raises to $7.80, Hero calls $6

        Spoiler:
        Results: $18 pot ($0.90 rake)
        Final Board: 3 2 J 8 Q
        Hero mucked J 8 and lost (-$9 net)
        BB showed Q 3 and won $17.10 ($8.10 net)


        More Hands to follow ...

        Last edited by Krkan; 09-20-2017 at 05:16 AM.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-20-2017 , 09:49 AM
        H1: Easy fold otr. Don't know why your calling here tbh. Why would he ship it with AA/ KK or a flush? This is a terrible runout for those hands and we have a ton of nutted combos in our range.

        H2: You should be 4 betting here pre to iso that maniac. But anyway, you got it in great against the maniac who sucked out. BTW: why did you have UTG in mind? This V is not even in the hand.

        H3: Fold pre! AP you got pretty unlucky. I don't hate the X ott but are they ever bluffing this river with this shove? Id have a tough time folding tho.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-20-2017 , 12:05 PM
        H1 Fold river, other than that fine.

        H2 4B, hand is fine.

        H2 Open is fine. Bet flop is meh, think I slightly prefer checking or betting smaller. Personally just b/b/b here, only a flop x/r range. Turn brings in so many draws, we want to be betting therefore we should bet value too.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-20-2017 , 12:53 PM
        Fold in H1 not so easy, what better does OP have? QQ 99 maybe AQs KQs.

        Only dislike the check turn in H3. BB has to many Jx to let him pay only 2 streets.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-21-2017 , 06:43 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Shamway99
        Fold in H1 not so easy, what better does OP have? QQ 99 maybe AQs KQs.
        What about Q9s, T9s, J9s, 98s, 97s?

        Last edited by btthywrsooted; 09-21-2017 at 06:49 AM.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-21-2017 , 12:36 PM
        I dont think that MP has to defend many 9x against big 3b pre if any. Ofc the more 9x we have the more we can fold 77.
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote
        09-25-2017 , 04:03 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Shamway99
        I dont think that MP has to defend many 9x against big 3b pre if any. Ofc the more 9x we have the more we can fold 77.
        > 130 bb deep he should have all those 9x combos
        [20NL] - Losing Session/Hands Review Quote

              
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