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[20NL] Look at me, I have the range advantage now [20NL] Look at me, I have the range advantage now

12-15-2018 , 01:10 PM
iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.06, PFR: 18.53, 3Bet Preflop: 8.88, Hands: 521)
BTN: 103 BB (VPIP: 32.00, PFR: 28.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 28)
SB: 95 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 53.35 BB (VPIP: 25.14, PFR: 14.12, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 365)
Hero (UTG): 251.45 BB
MP: 198.45 BB (VPIP: 38.27, PFR: 29.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 89)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 3

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 7 7 7
Hero bets 7.5 BB, MP calls 7.5 BB

Turn: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 22.5 BB, MP calls 22.5 BB

River: (67.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 67.5 BB, fold
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12-15-2018 , 01:18 PM
Now that i think of it, mby it's a bad choice of combo.

Hands like JTs, QJs would probably be better bluffs, blocking the top of his range when he flats in this position and unblocking his Axs hands that would fold.
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12-15-2018 , 01:50 PM
QJs is nuts on this river.

Looks like he was calling down with a small pair and got spooked by the queen. I agree with keeping A high unblocked, but you just went pot, pot, pot so A high will likely drop on turn (or even flop).
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12-15-2018 , 02:01 PM
yes, i meant before river
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12-15-2018 , 02:10 PM
Good idea but like you said. Better to have a hand like T9/JT to block top of his calling range
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12-15-2018 , 02:30 PM
u have the range advantage thing but it doesn't mean you should pot pot pot everytime, also betting 1/3 pot on the flop is most likely better, you can do some overbet later
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12-15-2018 , 04:54 PM
not even sure cb is worth it
you can't cb 100% so you have to give up with some AXs, might as well bet the ones that block mid pairs
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12-15-2018 , 08:22 PM
Massively over bluffing for 3 psb, villain calls wide from the looks, so I’d think a small bet auto profits. Betting so big let’s even an overly wide villain play pretty well.

I think we can probably bet range big vs a wide range with a reasonable utg rfi range on the flop. But on the turn that changes.

If villain calls a more reasonable and tight range MPvsUTG open than it looks this seems bad.

The turns a sticking point. Villain gets here very strong, I’m not sure how much fe we have! Our bluff needs to work a chunk less than 50% of the time, considering we have equity in the hand and possibly fold equity vs villains calling range. But at least 40% of the time to break even I’d imagine. Blocking 7x or overpairs like TT, 99, 88 would be a condition of most of a turn bluffing range I think.

On the river villain should call a lot of pp and some Qx. But how often does he get to the river with a bare Q? It looks strong, I wouldn’t do it too often though. Overbluffing is good vs over folders. Once you’ve got here with A3 it seems reasonable. Like we should try and block Qx but honestly most players don’t get here with Qx. I’d much prefer A8, A9 type hands though.









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12-16-2018 , 07:35 PM
That deep I think our opponent would raise all of his strongest hands(AA-JJ, probably AK-AQs/o), so his flatting range is weaker, we will have a big range advantage. I think that his range contains: maybe AQs/o, (10-10)99-pps, suited broadways, suited connectors and some suited hands like K-9s, Q-9s, J-9s maybe(he seems loose).
Against this wide range we could be ahead on the flop with A-highs, so 1/3-40% cbet could be enough(because we would be happy by taking the pot away on the flop.)
You did cbet 100%, and he called, so his range is strong, pocket pairs, AK-AQs plays on only against this sizing. On the blanky turn you barreled pot, which is brave, but could be OK. Now he will fold all of his A-highs, so we will play against only pocket pairs like 10-10, 99, 88, and maybe 66. If you played like this, you had to plan that you would barrel the river too.
Q on the river is a magnificent card for us. We barreled 3 streets with pot, he just can't call.
Good hand though, I would cbet around 1/3-40%(probably 40%) and would let it go against a loose agressive opponent, there are too much varience in this move. On the micros opponents only see their cards, they don't think in ranges, they don't like to be bluffed, so they often make hero calls in terrible spots. But you have big heart!!
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12-17-2018 , 04:10 AM
xf flop,

what range advantage are we talking about here? cuz we have AA/KK/QQ...
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12-17-2018 , 04:20 AM
Great thoughts you have shared. Keep it up
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12-17-2018 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
xf flop,

what range advantage are we talking about here? cuz we have AA/KK/QQ...
Our range is uncapped and his is capped to pretty much TT (I really doubt he has JJ). Regs on my pool are mostly nits. As you can see, V is not one of them but he does not have a lot of hands on me at this point.

Thus, in his shoes, facing 3 PSB on a locked board against a pretty much unknown reg inside a nitty pool, even at the top of my range I would consider an explo fold if I were him.

Even though I do agree that the combo is far from optimal, I had not gotten out of line at this point of the session and wanted to see if a random reg can call TT in this pot facing 3 PSB against unknown.

Or maybe Doodoopoker is just gradually taking over 2+2 and we are all morphing into overbluffing machines. ()
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12-17-2018 , 05:11 AM
i mean what do you think hes cold calling mp vs utg?

a much larger proportion of his range than ours is boats otf. I think high checking flop strategy is the play.
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12-17-2018 , 05:22 AM
I tagged him as bad, so I think he has all PPs 22-TT with maybe one combo of JJ considering he’ll 3bet most of the time. He also has AJs+, maybe some QJs, TJs.

So you’re right and I agree with you when you say he has more boats OTF.

However, his too large of a flatting range PF can be punished, his 22-99 boats can’t handle so much heat and all his broadways should be folded turn. And even at the top of his range, I would not be confortable calling the third barrel against general pop.

So, more boat, but range too weak

But I agree that is most probably not the correct play, just wanted to test it.
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12-17-2018 , 05:24 AM
Dont think you should be making all these assumptios with 90 hands on the guy. For all I know his range is 88+, some AQ/AK/KQs
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12-17-2018 , 05:41 AM
Yes you’re right, even though the showdowns I had seen were enough to tag him as bad reg, I should not make assumption of such a wide cold calling range with small sample :-)
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12-17-2018 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
i mean what do you think hes cold calling mp vs utg?

a much larger proportion of his range than ours is boats otf. I think high checking flop strategy is the play.


If it’s largely checked, what sizing are you using when you bet?


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12-17-2018 , 07:15 AM
3/4 to psb with JJ/TT/QQ, TJs/T9s etc
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