youre calling 87s in the sb? you really shouldnt have any calls in the sb especially vs cutoff, 87s is 100% a 3bet from sb vs CO

Nah I'm not, my worst sc I 3bet is 98s, I usually fold 87s.

thats incredibly tight. Whats your 3bet pct like 7%?

9% vs CO. I struggle hard with aggresion, so cutting down worst part of range helps a little. It also makes my CO/BTN winrates a disgrace

I'd say that SB should check this turn quite often, as played CO should not raise 7x IMO

Wont talk much about pf and flop, pretty standard

Just FYI, IP is supposed to have a lot of raises otf vs my sizing




Turn is deffo an interesting card, We both have 99, but hell be the only one that has T8s. Should be doing a ton of checking anyway since I bet a lot of my range otf.
Sims I ran like to check AA/KK a lot ott. I guess since it blocks strongest Jx and dont need protection. AA in particular is a good check since we dont block the non sdv part of his floats (Qx/kx) that want to be bluffing a lot more than Ax floats.
That being said, there is still a decent amount of betting with Jx,7x,fds,QTs,KQ, QQ etc... and this comes down to the fact that IP pairs up a lot ott or has pair +fd/sd. Lot of equity to be denied ott which is why id be ok to slightly extend my v.betting range since in practice we gain more ev by betting our AA/KK ott rather than x




River we get there, not gonna discuss what pio or gto+ does. I havent studied river spots a lot and dont intend to since no one is balanced and having an explo/gut feeling approach seems better to me
AA is an easy bet/f and I think Id be folding everythng thats not a boat otr. And for that to be good, I need to bet a size thats a) not gonna allow him to jam 7x. Think 1/2 psb accomplishes that perfectly.
Another idea is to bet river very small and rep a very wide v.betting range as weak as QJ and to hope to induce bluffs and value towning. I quite like that idea and think this is what I would've liked to do in hindisght.

yep agreed, think in practice its ok to check less than optimal though

why do you this so, CO will overfold, will not stab enough or?

Keeping range wide and intact as well as denying a fk ton of equity

Some ppl think its better to play defensive in 3bps oop deep which has its merits.

All in all, I think he has a lot of hands that are calling turn but never calling river if I x turn..

I agree with a turn bet. If you want to x with AA, I would do it on an OS 2-6 ott or even x flop sometimes.

Imho, your river bet screams to me "I'm b/f cause this board got worse and worse." I'm not saying CO is going to take advantage of that, it's just an observation. Given that observation and what you just said about hands that will call turn, but, would fold river if you x turn, would it be better to do some checking otr after betting turn. V could conceivably turn some hands into bluffs to that sizing he may not normally turn into a bluff had you just x'd otr. These same hands in Vs range aren't strong enough to call three streets either, would you agree?

Do you ever use this size otr with a strong hand?

Yep checking river is an option. I just assume that people are unlikely to turn made hands into a bluff. You are right tho that he should get to the river weakish which means I probs should a) x river to induce bluffs b) size down river bets. The best option is hard to determine since it relies heavily on assumptions made.
I by no means hate the river bet but its not like xcalling is terrible either. I just feel like when we x we end up guessing whereas a river bet somewhat forces him to play honest.

Also, deep, from explo point I like to size down in a lot of spots since our fe tends to be enhanced.