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01-17-2019 , 05:03 PM

UcallIlol

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Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 15

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 372.63 BB
SB: 276.38 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 126)
BB: 112.44 BB
UTG: 133.38 BB
MP: 243.75 BB
CO: 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, SB raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Flop: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 6

SB bets 17 BB, Hero raises to 41.25 BB

How do you feel about it/if raising, are you going bigger?

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01-17-2019 , 06:04 PM

g3orgeluc4s

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 645

Why are you raising here? With a pair+FD in position you have too much equity to turn your hand into a bluff on the flop

You can easily call flop/turn and feel good about it

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01-17-2019 , 08:44 PM

DooDooPoker

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,585

You probably should be 3betting hands like this given rake %s. Flop is a trivial call, we have position, let’s use it.

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01-17-2019 , 09:40 PM

FoldOnce

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 592

Preflop is fishy. Postflop I'd probably just call. This hand is only like 50/50 vs a reasonable continuing range (JJ+, Jx, AsXs). The way our equity is distributed is an issue too. If we brick the turn, which will happen 70% of the time, our hand becomes a significant underdog. So bloating the pot can put us in unnecessarily tough spots on turns.

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01-18-2019 , 04:08 AM

ChipsNcrisps

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

cc co rfi is ok, even though I 3b it most of the time. Deffo fold vs squeeze tho.

ye ap, flop is better as a call I think. Nothing better will fold to the raise, we dont need to deny equity as much holding spades. And this deep, it would suck to get 3bet...

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01-18-2019 , 05:24 AM

bearer

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,688

I'd take this line in a MTT sometimes v a relatively wide range, effectively for protection with massive equity if behind but this is poor this deep.

If you turn your hand, are you ready to play a 550bb pot with the 7-high flush? As you will but don't post any bad beat stories masquerading as a strat thread when you get stacked.

EDIT: not 7-high but you know what I mean

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01-18-2019 , 05:48 AM

ionutd

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

fold pre
100x deep, raising flop can't be that bad, not sure if any better than calling tho
I haven't studied deep play but guessing you're not supposed to build a massive pot w/o a very strong hand

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01-18-2019 , 05:52 AM

ChipsNcrisps

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

Its more so the concern that we dont wanna build big pot having weak draws

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01-18-2019 , 08:29 AM

Ojune

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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps

Deffo fold vs squeeze tho.

really? I'd always call here. This is because of stacks depth I assume?

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01-18-2019 , 08:32 AM

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DooDooPoker

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I would call preflop too, interested in the reasoning for a fold.

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01-18-2019 , 09:51 AM

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ChipsNcrisps

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

yep, also calling due to stack depths.. My mistake...

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