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06-23-2018 , 02:07 AM

.isolated

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This hand was played by a buddy.

No reads on player but shaping up to be a TAG after 26 hands.

Thoughts on 4b pre?
Thoughts on turn play?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 50.63 BB
Small Blind: 219.81 BB
BB: 59.56 BB
UTG: 103.75 BB
MP: 118.88 BB
Hero (CO): 166.31 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Small Blind raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero raises to 25 BB, Small Blind calls 16 BB

Flop: (51 BB, 2 players) 8

Small Blind checks, Hero bets 24.38 BB, Small Blind calls 24.38 BB

Turn: (99.75 BB, 2 players) J

Small Blind checks, Hero ???

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06-23-2018 , 02:08 AM

shynepo3

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x turn all day everyday

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06-23-2018 , 02:19 AM

sossinbergs

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I'm also in the camp of checking back the turn, and I would've bet smaller on the flop as well.

As for pre I prefer to call the 3-bet in these positions when we're this deep. We want to take full advantage of our position vs the sb which means we should be playing almost our entire range as a call in these spots. I don't think a 4-bet is bad, but by calling and keeping the range of the SB wider when we're IP I think we will see a better long-term EV.

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06-23-2018 , 07:28 AM

Rikk

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I'm definitely 4b pre.

+1 to x turn

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06-23-2018 , 08:30 PM

Ojune

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4bet is fine. I'd bet smaller on the flop although there is merit in playing a 2 streets plan with a fairly vulnerable hand.

It's very likely better to shove QQ than KK+ on the turn and since we want to shove some stuff, we should most likely include QQ.

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06-24-2018 , 03:17 AM

nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by shynepo3

x turn all day everyday

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Originally Posted by sossinbergs

I'm also in the camp of checking back the turn,

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Originally Posted by Rikk

I'm definitely 4b pre.

+1 to x turn

Ok so we check and he open piles otr when an A or K drops - now what? On the same token he checks - what's the play?

Last edited by nonsimplesimon; 06-24-2018 at 03:24 AM.

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06-24-2018 , 03:22 AM

Rikk

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Ok so we check and he open piles otr - now what?

What is the river card? I'm calling a reasonable size to a brick most likely, but need more info

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06-24-2018 , 03:26 AM

nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by Rikk

What is the river card? I'm calling a reasonable size to a brick most likely, but need more info

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I edited it but you beat me to it. Turn off those alerts on your phone lol

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06-24-2018 , 03:44 AM

Brokenstars

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flat or 4b pre is fine barring info

bet or x turn is fine barring info

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