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02-17-2018 , 09:47 AM

Brussels Sprout

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,780

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $18.77
UTG: $18.89 (VPIP: 29.57, PFR: 24.35, 3Bet Preflop: 12.20, Hands: 118)
CO: $8.96 (VPIP: 32.69, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
BTN: $33.05 (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
SB: $16.19 (VPIP: 22.78, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 84)

SB posts SB $0.08, Hero posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has 9

UTG raises to $0.48, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.60, UTG calls $1.12

I was unsure whether to flat or 3bet here. Villain has a RFI of 20% from UTG (out of 15 opportunities) and he has not folded to a 3bet yet out of 3 opportunities (obviously not working with significant sample size here). I think there's a chance that he's calling with a range of hands that I'm ahead of here so this is a 3bet for value. However I'm aware that by doing this I'm building a larger pot while I'm OOP with a hand that's likely not going to like too many flops

Flop: ($3.28, 2 players) 8

How best to proceed from here? For what it's worth, villain has so far not folded to any of 4 flop C-bets

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02-17-2018 , 10:30 AM

Mike MacIntosh

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Good 3bet preflop.

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How best to proceed from here? For what it's worth, villain has so far not folded to any of 4 flop C-bets

Bet flop. Gains value from worse hands and protect equity share.

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02-17-2018 , 06:25 PM

whitemares

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The only thing villain's preflop stats can really tell you with that sample size is that they're probably a reg.

The thing I don't like about 3betting is that your read on villain isn't very clear. Against an average reg, you're never going to be a substantial raw equity favorite. 55/45 at best, and not all of that equity is realizable. Hand playability is an even bigger factor OOP.

Not sure how much I like cbetting either when you have to check/fold to almost half the deck on the remaining two streets. Maybe you could cbet most of your range here, but that flop probably smashes villain's.

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02-18-2018 , 12:47 AM

nonsimplesimon

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Whether you bet or check call he's got a wide range so bet for value. Like pre btw.

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02-18-2018 , 06:22 AM

Ojune

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pre is bad imo, flop Id cc

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02-18-2018 , 02:29 PM

tomj

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Tend to keep 3bets from BB vs UTG to a minimum, and polarised. Flatting pre here is much better imo

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02-19-2018 , 10:53 AM

BackdoorQuadsDraw

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Originally Posted by Mike MacIntosh

Good 3bet preflop.

Bet flop. Gains value from worse hands and protect equity share.

This is bad advice, UTG OR range is pretty strong and you're getting a decent discount on your setmine. Just flat pre, probably x/c one and evaluate turn.

AP the C bet is spewy too IMO. Not sure what better hand is folding or what worse hand is calling. The guys saying 'bet for value' are making the age old mistake of overvaluing your showdown equity when are there are two streets left. You may well have the best hand can't really C bet many turns after he calls here and he just has a tons of floats here that can fold you off your equity. If the turn is a total blank and you bet and get called, you can't C bet river and still probably have to x/f.

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02-19-2018 , 11:15 AM

Feng Shui

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I agree with flatting pre.

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02-19-2018 , 03:10 PM

whitemares

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Originally Posted by BackdoorQuadsDraw

I agree with this, but it’s incorrect to say we’re calling to set mine.

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02-19-2018 , 04:42 PM

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JamesBJames

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I almost always just call PF. I'd 3-bet TT though, so whatever you feel comfortable with, I guess.

c/c flop. Most of the numbers I'm getting from Equilab say that we have just north of 50% equity range v. range, but it's not a great board for our range regardless, and we're OOP. We should be checking OTF a lot.

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02-20-2018 , 07:47 AM

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ChipsNcrisps

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Don't 3bet pre
This should be in ur defending range 100%
Range wants to x flop mainly

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