Unknown player, 21/21 over 19 hands





What's the standard play here? Shove? Bet small? Check and decide?

I like a bet/fold of about half pot or so. He can still have a fair amount of Kx without a queen.

You want to bet $5.62 into $ 11.25 and then fold to a $2.80 raise? pretty terrible advice....

just jam for max value

Bet bigger otf and ott.

Which Hands we are beating would call otr?

I think it's better to x/c so we face from time to time a bluff we can catch.
I don't think V is calling here with KJ or KT.

Just jam
There are 9 combos of KQ (if he continues with all of them)
If he does, so there is certainly at least 3 combos of KJs
And there are 6 combos of AK(you might debate AK to 4bet pre, but he is IP and a bit deeper, so he can have all AK here)
So there are 9 combos that beat you now and there are 9 that would call you(most of the time) and you are winning.
No problems there.
If he has slowplays(which he for sure can have) good for him...
Not a bad play by you at all.

It's unlikely for villain to have KQo, 87s because of your 3bet pre size. He still has KQs, 88 so 5 combos that beat us. I'm going to give him all AKo (5 combos) for the reason that Mohsen mentioned.
Shoving should be profitable regardless of whether he calls or folds KJs because we need very little fold equity.
It's hard to say if checking will be more profitable because I don't know what bluffs he would have. He's probably going to shove KQs, 88 but I'm not sure if he shoves AK as well.
I lean towards shoving because there's a chance he can call with KJs.

Shove for value and pray he doesn't have KQ.

You can't bet/fold because he doesn't have enough left after your bet, and I don't see anything to justify check/folding.
So basically you're never folding.

I could get check/calling if you think he's much more likely to bet his top pair than he is to call with it, but given that he's unknown, just shove. He might have AK (not everyone 4bet those) and if he can have KQ he can probably have other K.

Haha fair...I have to have a computer work out all the stack and pot sizes for me before I make decisions. My point was that with the right stacks sizes etc I don't think a small bet fold would be bad. But as is then pretty sure is just shove. Dunno what the zoom pool is like but plenty will pay off with worse Kx on normal tables.

Super Easy Decision with those stack sizes. Bet maybe even shove.

This is NL10, so you will get called by worse plenty of time.
Did a quick search in my database. Found some recent 3Bet hands that went Bet, Bet, Bet and went to showdown from NL 10.

Me holding AA, 3Bet Preflop, Bet Flop, Bet Turn, Bet River. Got called all the way by:
TT with overs
AQ on J high with no Draws whatsoever.
KJ on 2KT42
77 on K3352

me AK again 3B Pre, B,B,B got called by:

77 on 5s6cAs 9 4s completing Flush
KJ on AK757

So with these stacks, always Bet for value. Could argue betting smaller to make sure he calls or even Raises, but definately not Check, as at these levels plenty of players are super passive and just check behind with a hands as strong as even AK.

Easy jam size up turn

Jam it buddy. No other play. YEah your gonna get shown a Set from time to time, the KQ suckout will get there but you are at the top of your range.

His K will call you down. Even 1010, JJ are in his range and he is probably folding the river but its ok.

Jam it.

Jamming but not feeling great about it. Do KJs-KTs call? Does he ever have AK? I guess his range of value hands is pretty small (KQs, 88, maybe KK a non-zero percentage of the time) and so to the extent he can have worse kings and call with them we should bet for value.

C/c'ing seems bad because he can't ever have a bluff without turning something marginal SDV into one, and I doubt that happens enough of the time.

I think c/f'ing is a lot closer than people are giving it credit for. Like, if I have KJs, I'm probably c/f'ing river.

+1 to the jamarooskis.

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