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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I don't know if you really need to have any check-raise bluffs on this board vs villain's line. What value-hands are you trying to balance on this blank river? Does 54s slowplay every street?
If the theoretical solution does include some check-raise bluffs, then it might be the case that you need to pick some weak made hands like 43hh or 65hh, and turn them into bluffs, but I suppose you could also use K5hh/K4hh if they get to the river like this. 42ss should just check-fold the turn I would think, but I suppose if you misclick call on the turn and it gets to the river, it has to be folded or turned into a bluff at a low frequency.
I think it's really unnecessary (and possibly quite -EV) to do it at 10NL though. If you can't rep many value hands, and also don't know exactly what you'd be trying to fold out with a bluff (having a read on villain really helps too), it's often safer to just check-fold.
A couple of years ago, I had a habit of making fancy plays like this, where I'd x-call two streets with bottom pair and then check-shove the river and it worked really well... until it stopped working really well and I lost absolute chunks. You feel like a genius (and get a sick redline) when this play works, but when you get snapped off by one pair, you feel like a clown. A busto clown. It's pretty high risk, and the rewards don't seem to be as high.
I’d rather not have any
hands to do this with because most Villains will barrel turn with all their BDFDs. This keeps more bluffs in their range. I don’t see any reason to not do this with 45s, all BTNs strong aces will continue betting on the turn and I’m pretty sure AK,AQ get value bet on the river even if they shoud not.
I don’t usually call turn but my stats on Villain are high turn aggression so I opted to call. This was more of an opponent specific line I guess and I agree as a default is FPS/spew.