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10NL - Lost 10 BI's in this session. Want to check if it's just bad luck or played badly. 10NL - Lost 10 BI's in this session. Want to check if it's just bad luck or played badly.

06-25-2019 , 09:43 AM
Hand 1
PFR is 71/25 in 19 hands, SB is 68/20 in 16 hands.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9663543

Hand 2
Limper is 72/3 in 17 hands with Fold to Cbet of 67% in 7 instances.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9663544

Hand 3
EP+1 Caller is 63/38 in 8 hands. SB Squeezer is 14/12 with 3.5 Sqz in 246 hands.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9663545

Hand 4
Limper is 46/6 in 15 hands.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9663547

Hand 5
PFR is 28/17 in 26 hands and BB Squeezer is 23/13 with 12.5 Sqz in 31 hands. Stats are adjusted with number of players playing.
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9663550

What do you guys think? There are more hands, but they seem to be much clearer coolers than these.

Hand history converter giving me an error, hence, the poekrhandreplays links.
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06-25-2019 , 10:10 AM
Hand 1: Ok
Hand 2: I limp behind pre, otherwise ok.
Hand 3: I cant fold. Though I wouldn't really call the cold 5-bet a squeeze.
Hand 4: Might be weak but I often check this pre. As played, I usually go slightly bigger on flop and turn. I x/c river as you did.
Hand 5: 3-bet or flat the original raise, either is fine. After you check, I raise a bit more on the flop. I can't fold.
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06-25-2019 , 10:22 AM
I dont play 9max but maybe you should work on your ranges and bet sizes. Polarbetting strategy, betting into capped/ uncapped ranges, fold equity, range bets and clear plan for sizes of your bets. I think this might help also size up/down at what range you are targetting. Like KQ hand, do you really want to go foe three streets of value there? KK hand i dont know...maybe true grinders can answer. I never fold kings, maybe its my leak.
Also 10bi its like what 100 dollars....Nothing to worry abou cheer up.

Last edited by TakeItiletyou; 06-25-2019 at 10:28 AM.
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06-25-2019 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by iamlagLOL
Hand 1: Ok
Hand 2: I limp behind pre, otherwise ok.
Hand 3: I cant fold. Though I wouldn't really call the cold 5-bet a squeeze.
Hand 4: Might be weak but I often check this pre. As played, I usually go slightly bigger on flop and turn. I x/c river as you did.
Hand 5: 3-bet or flat the original raise, either is fine. After you check, I raise a bit more on the flop. I can't fold.
Hand 2, I was just playing math. He has a very high fold to Cb with a very high VPIP over a decent sample imo. If we Cb 1/2, we just need to win the pot 1/3 times.

Hand 4, I think we're losing value pre if we just check vs a clear fish. It's the river that I think I played bad.

Thanks for the input!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TakeItiletyou
I dont play 9max but maybe you should work on your ranges and bet sizes. Polarbetting strategy, betting into capped/ uncapped ranges, fold equity, range bets and clear plan for sizes of your bets. I think this might help also size up/down at what range you are targetting. Like KQ hand, do you really want to go foe three streets of value there? KK hand i dont know...maybe true grinders can answer. I never fold kings, maybe its my leak.
Also 10bi its like what 100 dollars....Nothing to worry abou cheer up.
I don't play "trashy" hands vs regs. There's usually a stat I see that's a clear leak that I can exploit when I do this. Like in hand 2 with the very high VPIP and fold to Cb over a decent sample hence the PFR in hand 2.

I wasn't really frustrated losing 10bi's. I wasn't sure if I was just unlucky or playing bad. Was doing ok at 5NL (7bb/100 over 18k hands) then took a shot at 10NL and this happened.

Thanks for the input!

Last edited by Mike Haven; 06-26-2019 at 04:48 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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06-25-2019 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SGR
Hand 2, I was just playing math. He has a very high fold to Cb with a very high VPIP over a decent sample imo. If we Cb 1/2, we just need to win the pot 1/3 times.

Hand 4, I think we're losing value pre if we just check vs a clear fish. It's the river that I think I played bad.

Thanks for the input!
Hand 2: sample size is 17 hands? That is tiny. He does seem like a fish though. Idk, I would just rather raise my good hands for value since you prolly don't have alot of fold equity pre.

Hand 4: If he was the lone limper pre I'd agree, but you have SB and button in there as well. Chances are you'll play a bloated multiway pot with KQo, which is hard. I think river is fine.
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06-25-2019 , 11:16 AM
These all look like coolers to me
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06-25-2019 , 08:59 PM
tbh, I don't know how much you can learn about poker by putting up HH's facing droolers. Like, the 99 hand is not really neccessary. You had top set, and the fish flopped a straight with his napkins. There's not really much more to say.

edit : ISO with 74 suited in the cutoff is insanely wide, but same thing applies post. what do you want as advice? He donk punts into you on the river when a double flush wet board bricks and you have trips. You probably could have avoided this situation entirely by not opening 74, but once we make trips against a drooler taking a stupid line, I'm probably not folding. The donk overbet shove on river as a rule I find to be pretty nutted generally, though.

lol justifying the iso with 74 in the comments above. This hand is ****ing trash, my dude. You need to tighten up your preflop ranges, that's complete spew.

Last edited by amazin lazer; 06-25-2019 at 09:12 PM.
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06-26-2019 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by amazin lazer

lol justifying the iso with 74 in the comments above. This hand is ****ing trash, my dude. You need to tighten up your preflop ranges, that's complete spew.
I don't get this either. What's the point in ISO with a hand like 74s when the rec will call you with bad but better hands some of which dominate you?
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06-26-2019 , 10:22 AM
99 hand is a cooler. Dont play 74s unless your on the btn. Don't iso with it either. KK is a easy fold in full ring. So i believe the utg raised you 3b the KK and sb or bb cold 4b who looks like 100 bb deep reg. In full ring they wont cold 4b anything but AA or KK here when its utg raise and CO 3b they pretty much are only 4b AA. I said right away before i saw it you ran into AA. This is one of the few situations where KK is no good unless your up against a bad player that you have notes on that over plays. If anything I would just flat and see a flop and hope to hit K.

The KQ hand I would fold the river. This is a spot where again you look super strong and when bet the turn you have to understand he knows you have K at this point so he just value shoving the river. I would of bet the river about 1/3rd and if he shoves i fold and save a little bit of money. You still want to try to get as much value as you can against weaker pairs under Kx. if you check he gets to play perfectly and check back all weaker pairs and value shove all better hands. So i would of bet like 2 dollars try make money against weaker hands and saving 4 dollars against better hands.

The 9s on the last hand once you get raised and reraised your 99 is no good. I would put someone on JJ or QT and just let it go. The best case scenrio is nut flush draw and AA and its still unlikely by action taking place. I guess your hoping for AA- QQ but i think he would just cb the flop instead he went for the check raise and I would put him on JJ and put the btn on QT on the reshove.

This is stuff you will learn over time as you play that your over playing a lot of these spots and over calling. I played millions of hands ring games online and i can tell you most of these spots are easy folds from all the volume put in over the years. WHen i first started out i would make all these calls thinking oh its gto i have to call with my big hands. You can't just look at your hand. Thats what most people do and claim their play is gto is more of a cop out for playing poorly and not understanding their relative range is weak. Or they call it a cooler and the 1st hand was cause when someone donk shoves like that multi hes just a weak player have to calll with your set and you had him beat you were right on the call if the player behind flopped a straight thats just unlucky spot. Don't beat yourself up over those situations.
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06-26-2019 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by martintheduck
These all look like coolers to me
Ya for a newbie those are coolers. For a grinder these are easy folds except 1st hand.
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06-26-2019 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kewl_cph
I don't get this either. What's the point in ISO with a hand like 74s when the rec will call you with bad but better hands some of which dominate you?
This is tom dwan syndrome. We all went through it watching poker after dark and high stakes poker
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06-26-2019 , 03:39 PM
it is Tom Dwan syndrome. It gets said ad nauseum over and over again in this forum, but it bears repeating. You are playing to the level of your competition. Tom Dwan is a beast human that can play both ends of the deck. Why can he do that? Because he is playing at stakes where he can make his competition uncomfortable, can outplay them post, and can generate folds with trash because his competition is capable of making difficult folds. You are playing 10nl. A muppet limps UTG with 75 offsuit. Where is your fold equity? He has already decided that he is going to play the hand. Does that mean never isolate? Of course not, but the hands that we want to isolate are hands with "frequent strength", or hands that we can easily extract value with on a multitude of boards. Instead, we took a hand that is never isolated under any circumstance facing an under the gun limp, and isolated it. Now he made a pair on the flop, how much better could it get for him, he just paired his top card!

also, making huge adjustments and deviating from sound fundamental play because of a 17 hand sample is absurd. You really need to work on your foundational game before you start deviating so widely. My recommendation to you would be to play 6-max fast fold so that you can pin down your ranges, and aren't playing so wide open, so that you can get a feel for standard lines, and try to accurately range opponents on the fly, and understand how your own ranges interact with different board textures. You can even play more hands than in full ring.
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