UTG: $10.29 (30/21/16/208)
HJ: $11.53 (22/12/2/478)
Hero (CO): $10.97
BTN: $10.75 (25/19/9/103)
SB: $10 (23/16/9/254)
BB: $10.49 (41/14/5/126)

BB is a fish preflop and has a fold to cbet of 33.

Preflop Hero is in the CO with JJ
UTG folds, HJ bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop ($1.04) AJ6
BB bets $0.52, HJ raises to $2.60, Hero?

Basically deciding between flatting and shoving, what do you think?

Probably shove cuz you never flat anything weaker then top two.

Flatting looks too strong, if the turn is a club you fold and if it's a brick...I think it becomes an easy fold for Villain unless they are spewy.

I've been working on sizings a lot lately, I think raising to 6 or 7 is better than shoving, you accomplish more with less and pot commit both of you.

Ship it

And shipping isn't crazy strong? Does anyone ever bluff here?

Our decision is based on how to keep the BB involved imo.

flat and GII on whatever turn imo

I always flat JJ vs. an UTG open but think it's strong enough to put in our 3-betting range vs. HJ. Since no one's commented on it yet, maybe I should be calling more often?

Not sure what's best postflop. With a fish behind us I'm more inclined to call and GII OTT, but shoving to put clubs in a rough spot seems okay too, especially if we're shoving things like KQs, KTs, QTs on this flop.

I 3bet JJ against MP here too. I just feel like we're giving the blinds a good price to tag along and that's something I want to avoid. Although, maybe in this case with your read on the BB we don't mind.

I'm shipping it. It's interesting to me that the responses are so divided. Pretty much 50/50. I think there's merit to either answer.

I would generally 3bet preflop as well. I flatted because of the fish in the blinds and the opener is 22/12 so raising range is quite strong.

When i said flatting looks too strong, we want to keep ourselves balanced right?

Are we flatting our flush draws then folding to a brick turn? I think it's shove or raise, lean more towards raise though because a shove would be overplaying it slightly. Like JamesBJames said, i'm personally never flatting KQs, KTs, or QTs.

Also you said our decision is based on how to keep BB involved, I think the board is so coordinated that if we flat the raise which is almost 2x the size of the pot what is the BB calling with? We are trying to extract value from any club draw, two pair, or AK. So, let's say we flat and turn is a brick, like 3 of hearts...If villain is calling a second bet here, then villain is also likely to call a raise or shove on the flop? If they aren't calling a second bet, then they fold to our flop raise and we take the pot down while we have the most equity. If anything, I think the argument could be made for a smaller flop raise but flatting seems like a mistake to me? What am I missing?

Sorry if this is winded, but given the size of the raise..any hand that's calling the raise and will call a second bet on the turn will get it in on the flop. Any hand that is too weak to call a second bet on the turn, would fold on the flop anyways so we may as well raise and charge more. That's my logic, however if I'm way off base here I would definitely appreciate any feedback!

@Necrorcorpse, I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I think the one thing you might be missing is that BB is a pretty big fish and flatting might not look as strong to them as it probably should.

Ohhh, yeah if BB is that bad then I understand the merit in calling because that gives BB more room to make a mistake. Yeah, if flatting doesn't look strong to BB, then we should flat and try to GII on the turn.

Given the sizing though, I guess my question and this depends on your specific read if any would be is BB likely to call or raise if you flat? The sizing is pretty large, so if BB is the type of fish that will overvalue his hand, he might just GII vs your raise...however if BB plays super loose preflop, then plays fit or fold on flop, they would just fold once you flat and you lost value by not raising vs HJ.

pre is whatever, call flop, ship turn

No. But let's say we're overly concerned about ranges, we're probably going to 3-bet JJ pre at some freq, so we don't have all of that. 66/A6s is a fold pre in these positions, and you say you don't have any of the big club draws. So essentially we're just jamming a combo or two of JJ, 9cTc/8c9c if you can have them, and then doing what, folding everything else in our range? Flatting tons of weak stuff that can rarely call turn?

So I don't see how you're doing anything other than letting MP raise/fold for a ton of profit. Especially given,