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10NL Is this bluff bad or terrible? 10NL Is this bluff bad or terrible?

03-20-2018 , 10:16 PM
Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 181.4 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 2.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 51)
CO: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 27)
BTN: 172.5 BB (VPIP: 17.26, PFR: 13.19, 3Bet Preflop: 7.36, Hands: 1,707)
SB: 53.3 BB (VPIP: 29.35, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.75, Hands: 312)
Hero (BB): 142.8 BB
UTG: 152.1 BB (VPIP: 29.69, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 68)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 5 4 7
Hero bets 16 BB, BTN raises to 55.3 BB, Hero calls 39.3 BB

Turn: (131.1 BB, 2 players) A
[color=red]Hero bets 77.5 BB and is all-in

This hand is awful, but I'll try to explain my thought process here. Vil was a reg who I had been 3-bet battling on a few different tables. When he made the raise on the flop, I felt he easily could have a straight or flush draw and be semi-bluffing here trying to get me off of AK/AQ. I made the call, and I felt vil is good enough to think that the reason I made the call was because I had thought he was bluffing. And the A came on the turn and it felt like to the vil I had played the hand like I had AK/AQ, and had known he was bluffing on the flop, which was why I had called, and then when my A hit went all in. I didn't think after he raised the flop that he had AK/AQ himself, as I feel he doesn't raise so much on the flop without the equity from a straight/flush draw.
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03-20-2018 , 10:32 PM
It seems standard. nh
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03-20-2018 , 11:35 PM
To answer the question in the title-- yes. The flop bet/call is lighting money on fire. Like, a lot of money.

I usually just call PF but I think that's the least of your concerns in this hand. Bet flop smaller (checking might be reasonable too); as played calling the raise is awful. You think villain is semi-bluffing, so you call a big raise OOP with no SDV and barely any draws, hoping to... donk bluff shove turn with minimal fold equity and get villain off a small range of flush draws, some of which we block? It's just not good.
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03-20-2018 , 11:46 PM
It kinda looks like when I go into Vanessa Selbst mode and I wonder why some players think I’m abysmal at poker.

We’ve all spewed off here and there, but yes this is pretty terrible! Honestly, if you think he’s bluffing too much here (although, he has range advantage in my opinion so I wouldn’t condone what I’m about to say), 3bet jam flop.
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03-21-2018 , 05:17 AM
Check flop - what do you think he's calling your 3b pre with? If he's a reg, conceivably 88-JJ (maybe 77),random suited connectors, suited broadways. When the flop comes 457hh this is a good spot to check almost your entire range because even with QQ-AA you will not want to go b/b/b on this board since half the deck will be a terrible card, and on top of that this board actually connects with your opponent's range better than it does yours.

You have just 2 overs and a backdoor to the Q-high flush. If you really had to bet, choose a smaller sizing like 1/3-1/2 pot, but honestly checking is probably the best play and is probably what pio would tell you too.
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03-21-2018 , 06:00 AM
fancy play syndrome ... google it
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03-21-2018 , 06:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBJames
To answer the question in the title-- yes. The flop bet/call is lighting money on fire. Like, a lot of money.

I usually just call PF but I think that's the least of your concerns in this hand. Bet flop smaller (checking might be reasonable too); as played calling the raise is awful. You think villain is semi-bluffing, so you call a big raise OOP with no SDV and barely any draws, hoping to... donk bluff shove turn with minimal fold equity and get villain off a small range of flush draws, some of which we block? It's just not good.
+1
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03-21-2018 , 03:29 PM
Terrible>bad
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03-21-2018 , 05:03 PM
It is a losing play the majority of the combos that he raised flop with (semi bluffs and value) will call and that turn card helped those Ahxh s

and the semi bluffs have good equity as well

Last edited by BPMaR; 03-21-2018 at 05:12 PM. Reason: spelling and adding semi bluff equity
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