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10-11-2018 , 01:18 PM

DooDooPoker

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Check or Bet this river?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
BB ($25.15) [VPIP: 23.6% | PFR: 18.3% | AGG: 29.8% | 3-Bet: 6% | Hands: 2175]
HJ ($83.52) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 47.9% | 3-Bet: 7.8% | Hands: 634]
HERO ($30.70) [VPIP: 28% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 30.9% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 62050]
BTN ($31.85) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 39.4% | 3-Bet: 6.7% | Hands: 1324]
SB ($25.10) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 44.1% | 3-Bet: 8.3% | Hands: 2093]

Dealt to Hero: J

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.55, BTN Raises To $2, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $1.45

Hero SPR on Flop: [6.6 effective]
Flop ($4.35): 2

HERO Checks, BTN Bets $3.10 (Rem. Stack: 26.75), HERO Calls $3.10 (Rem. Stack: 25.60)

Turn ($10.55): 2

HERO Checks, BTN Checks

River ($10.55): 2

HERO ?

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10-11-2018 , 02:07 PM

Karrlitos1

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Do you have QQ in your range in this spot? Mostly raising OTF with JJ but calling is fine at some frequency I guess. On this turn V. will bet most QQ-AA (as he should), so definitely betting river especially when we have Jh.

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10-11-2018 , 02:22 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Karrlitos1

I 4bet QQ. Yeah I was thinking us having a

probably makes it more of a bet as well, thanks.

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10-11-2018 , 03:59 PM

WorldzMine

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B/f something like $7.

I'm curious why you don't 4bet this in the CO vs a BTN 3bet in these positions where it's more appropriate, but in another thread you said you usually 4bet this from earlier positions?

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10-11-2018 , 04:26 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine

Yeah it was Villain specific, this guy has a strong 3betting range in general and the other guy was Laggy

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10-12-2018 , 03:26 AM

ChipsNcrisps

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I think a small bet of 1/3 works well with our range

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10-12-2018 , 04:40 AM

WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Yeah it was Villain specific, this guy has a strong 3betting range in general and the other guy was Laggy

~7% total probably means about 11% vs a regs CO open from the button--so, not tight.

Vs the laggy guy in those positions you want some semi-strong hands in your OOP flatting range so that you can own him postflop--not flipping vs an extremely strong continuing range vs a 4bet from EP.

Basically the opposite of what you are doing to be more unexploitable.

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10-12-2018 , 09:06 AM

simplelessons

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Check and give V a chance to stab with his air. If we bet $7 all his ace high/king high just folds and V has very little worse that can call.

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10-12-2018 , 11:58 AM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine

I remember it was 6% from the BTN. He was one of those regs that 3bet light from the blinds but tighter from IP. You’re probably right, should be 4betting more polar against laggy players. Not sure if this is a 4bet or flat PF against a 6% 3bet OTB.

What’s the top 6% hands of look like? I need to go check equilab

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10-12-2018 , 04:56 PM

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GusMcrae

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There is some variability in a top 6% range depending on how you value certain hands. Something like this is a reasonable approximation:
99+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, AQo+

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10-12-2018 , 05:36 PM

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aprogle

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Check then call. looks like V missed his flush.

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10-12-2018 , 06:41 PM

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Haizemberg93

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Bet small like 1/3 of the pot.His range is very weak so its very hard for him to defend even vs small size bet.

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10-12-2018 , 07:02 PM

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DooDooPoker

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this is very interesting its split like 50/50 between x/c and bet small.

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10-12-2018 , 07:09 PM

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WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

this is very interesting its split like 50/50 between x/c and bet small.

They are essentially the same action except for x/c containing some bluffs maybe and bet small works better when you think he has "something" at least.

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