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100NL - Call TPTK 4B-Pot For Stacks OTR? 100NL - Call TPTK 4B-Pot For Stacks OTR?

04-18-2019 , 01:25 PM
HJ open-raises to $2.5, CO calls, Hero 3B-squeezes AK to $12.5, HJ 4-bets to $26, CO folds, Hero calls.

Flop: KTQ
Hero checks, HJ bets $12.5 into $53, Hero calls

Turn: KTQ7
Hero checks, HJ checks

River: KTQ73
Hero checks, HJ shoves $67 into $78 all-in, Hero...?


Villain is unknwon. Lets assume hes a standard reg:

I think it doesnt look like a set. I would think these MAY bet bigger OTF and/or often bet the turn?

We also block AA, so he likely doesnt have many sets OTR and likely doesnt have many hands that beat us, at the same time his 4-Bet/Bluff range here should be tiny. I also think the pool doesnt bluff this spot a lot but maybe I'm wrong.

I ended up folding... care to hear some oppinions Also which hands should we call here to his rather small 4-Bet pre?
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04-18-2019 , 01:46 PM
Shove pre.
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04-18-2019 , 01:53 PM
vs unknown I fold.

As soon as I know V 4bets a lot of the suited Ax, I start calling.

Last edited by ChipsNcrisps; 04-18-2019 at 02:16 PM.
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04-18-2019 , 02:14 PM
ty!

@xamlop: I really dont think thats an option vs unknown!

edit: actually shoving pre could be an option... sorry...

Last edited by Acryl2; 04-18-2019 at 02:24 PM.
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04-18-2019 , 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
As soon as I know V 4bets a lot of the suited Ax, I start calling.
How do we not 5-bet pre if we know that, though ?
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04-18-2019 , 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xamlop
How do we not 5-bet pre if we know that, though ?
We do, but the concept still applies.
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04-18-2019 , 05:14 PM
By the way I was thinking we could not 5-bet shove AKo because he would likely 4-bet tighter as its a squeeze but I guess it doesn't matter so much since there is more money in the pot and we are getting better odds...

I mean I'm sure the call is +EV too. Do you guys think that the EV of shoving > EV calling?
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04-18-2019 , 06:52 PM
Why would he 4b tighter vs a squeeze? I think it is exactly the opposite.

I also see no reason to flat the 4b here. I would choose better hands to do it, some AA and some AKs if you want to balance a bunch of your squeeze range you would flat, like T9s etc.

Also this flop is like the worst possible for our hand, even with the good price we get i like the river fold because i just cant find enough bluffs in his range.
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