Dont wear a T-Shirt under a button down shirt, it looks weird (unless it's not seen).

Watches:
Definitely yes! Every man should own at least one watch.

Price: Approximately 1 month salary.

I think for most people, who only own one watch, a metal wristband is the way to go.
If you get a leather one, you need to be careful, because the wristband needs to match the belt and shoes.

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That's a good guideline, dont know why you would object.

goddammit spurious.

You really think a guy who makes 50k a year should have a 4 thousand dollar watch?

Got me a pair of these today: Shoes.
I needed something new for the summer, but had a hard time finding something between all the black leather that seems to be the trend (already have a black leather pair).
This seemed the right balance between casual and classy for my wardrobe.

Also, definite yes on a watch. I don't really agree with spurious' guideline though, but I'd say nothing under 250$ is really acceptable.

I think spurious is getting wedding rings and watches confused, although iirc wedding ring is 2 months

lol @ 1 months salary for a watch, so the watch has to be $2k+ for it to look good?

its only a 100$ watch for you wsop

You just asked if men should wear watches.

CCuster: I am most definitely not confused here.

If you arent part of the Italian mob, there are 3 types of jewelery a man can wear:

The most basic of which is a watch, in addition you got a wedding ring and cufflinks.

I dont get why people think it's unreasonable to spend that much money on a piece of jewelery they can wear to a lot of occasions and which lasts "forever".
Women are spending a lot more money on jewelery and over the years, you will see that it's only a small percentage of your income.

hi guise, i need new sunglasses.

here are some that ive been looking

oakley oilrig


oakley probation


prada sport 53is


police 8412


thoughts?

I have two pairs of the oil rigs (top one), black and white. I like those best and black looks way better than white.

Spurious: you forgot earrings brah! Make it 4. Also, 1 month salary on a watch is lollllll. Maybe once you hit like age 30 or something.


That black one is sexxxxy. ~100 too

Chopsuey: The oakley probations are by far the best

Men should definitely NOT wear earrings, it looks ridiculous.

And so far no one has actually brought a counter argument besides "lol" and the like.
1 month salary is a standard guideline in that regard and it's totally reasonable, although I am fighting windmills at that point.

a good counter argument? How about financial responsibility? Your posting in SL...If you can afford to throw 1 months salary at a watch you should be paying back student loans or some other similar college expense instead..your psoting in SL, you are making absurd fashion claims and generalizing it to Americans even though you are clueless...How is that for a counterargument?

We are not collective trolls trying to piss you off, everyone thinks most of your posts are absurd

Hey brah it is all about a cohesive look and for some of us that includes earrings. I don't make these calls, just go with what the ladies prefer.

How is it totally reasonable for a student/newly graduated population when 99% of people that we deal with can't tell the difference between a 500, 1k, and 10k watch? The one I received the most compliments on in my life by farrrrr was a cheap watch but it 1. looked good and 2. worked.

Based on this I'm going to agree with everyone else. If you are spending "1 month's salary on a watch", I would hope you would do enough research to find out that the wristband is usually the last thing you worry about when searching for a good quality watch (esp. between $500-$2k). But that's besides the point. Spending $XXXX on a watch when you are doing it as a fashion statement as a college student is really irresponsible (unless you can afford it). Spend $20 on a bro watch and you'll feel like an all-star.

About bands:
Basically they are very easy to replace with aftermarket bands of many different styles/materials (nylon, leather, stainless steel, rubber), so choosing on a watch based on whether it will match your shoes or belt is very lolbrostatus. Make sure your eye shadow matches the color of the dial.

Most people who consider my posts ridiculous are spending not even close to the same amount of time on fashion as I do, so I am not really clueless as you put it.

I've never said the first you should do after college is buying a watch. If you got loans, this also subtracts from your salary and what not. Now you are arguing semantics, while I clearly posted a guideline for people, so the watch looks somewhat congruent with the rest.

Btw, I am more and more convinced that the "American fashion is different, LOL Europe" is an excuse for people. People just dont care about fashion and dont educate themselves, so they get personally offended when someone criticizes their taste.

It's as always not about what others think.
If the first thing people recognize about your outfit is the watch, then you are doing it wrong, a watch needs to be more subtle, so the compliments argument is plainly stupid.
And obviously the majority of the population cant tell the difference, but that's because they have no idea about watches, it doesnt matter if they cant tell.
It's the quality, that's important, a good watch is timeless, you can wear it forever. When you take good care of it, it'll last 10 years easily and then you spend <1% of your salary on a piece of jewelery, that's not a lot.

Good god, sorry, but this is soooo far from the truth.

Where did I say a college student should spend 4 figures on a watch? Point out the post to me and I definitely correct myself, but given I've never said that...

Your statement about wristbands is plainly ridiculous. The wristband is obviously super important and should be of major consideration, but given the fact that most of the people ITT dont find it necessary to match belt and shoes, I am not surprised.
Basically the clockwork and manufacture of the watch are more important, but that's a given and you should get advice on it.

Haha, I'm pretty sure only black guys can rock white sunglasses.
Think I'm gonna get the probation ones because I already have a pair that has kinda similar desing to oilrigs.

Thanks guise.

Unless you are talking about stainless vs. leather this is not true. If you are spending multiple thousands on a watch (as 1 months salary would imply) the wristband wont be a factor in your choice. And if youre buying a watch with a wristband to match your clothes, you shouldnt be buying a multiple thousand dollar watch.

And yeah its clearly ridiculous for someone a year or two out of college to spend a month's salary on a watch (remember this is student life).

edit- Let's say a average starting salary for a kid leaving college is 40k. You are advocating they spend over $3000 on a watch? Even if they have paid off all their loans and have little debt that's a joke.

I was obviously talking about stainless vs leather and stainless is the better choice because your wristband should match your belt and shoes.

I would say people in college should be looking to spend between $300 and $750 on their watch, probably closer to 750 than to 300 for "quality" reasons.

If you dont want to buy an expensive watch, then dont, but if you are interested in buying a watch that lasts and looks good, those guidelines help. I dont know why it would be "ridiculous" for someone out of college to spend that amount on a watch, no one has explained it to me.
Someone freshly out of college should be looking to spend more than that on his wardrobe. While a watch isnt a necessary expense, it's not ridiculous to spend money on it.

Can someone explain to me, why it is a bad investment? No one can.

People (not necessarily you) are talking out of their asses here. The first watch recommended is a Fossil which is produced for around $10 in China, the rest is brand only.

Because you are spending 8.33% of your yearly income on a watch coming out of college. What else needs to be said? What percentage of yearly income do you think someone out of college should spend on a car? (just wondering)

edit- How much you spend on the watch also has a lot to do with the field you're working in and how much your salary literally is...one month's salary may be ok in some circumstances but i dont think its right to say that should be a general rule.

Where are your arguments? 8.33% that lasts for a very long time, do you think it's stupid to invest 10% of your salary? Watches dont lose value.

What's your point? You are trying to make some weird point using meaningless numbers.
You mention cars, which is basically the same thing, but you dont seem to get it.

I don't know enough about watches to make these statements so I can only go by what others (the majority) say, but from the first post in the EDF watch thread:

Investing 10% of your salary is different than purchasing a watch for 10% of your salary (duh)

When did I say I am buying them for their investment potential?
I merely said they are not losing value and NEVER said that I buy them because of their investment potential.

It's a watch, it's one of 3 pieces of jewelery a man should own, spending less than 1% on it, seems not unreasonable.