hotornot was the **** in high school. there was a really interesting benoit denizet- lewis piece in the times magazine about this years ago. I was 18 at the time and was both appalled and intrigued by this hook-up scene:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/ma...pagewanted=all

read the SE FAQ. you will know whos account I am

GcG,

Let me know if you would like some pyschoanalyzation.

Also, regardless of that, would be v helpful to see a picture of you. If you don't want to post one, maybe PM one to Mittens, Karak, yeota, me, goofy or whoever you might trust in this thread. How attractive you are def plays a part here, but imo that's prob not the major factor here.

Also would be helpful to know:
where you are from
where you currently are
height/weight/fitness level
age

What? Jetto is a gimmick? A gimmick with over 7300 posts?

3/5 on the gay scale

Jesus, these kids are all like present-day Mittens, but they're between 14-16yo

I'm re-reading this article during breaks from work and I'm stunned how much my perception of all this has changed since I first read it at 18. I was much more conservative about stuff back then (though obviously hypocritical).

I read that thread and I still have no idea whose gimmick you are.

While surprised, I'm actually relieved to find out that he's a gimmick.

not too bad

looks are not THAT important to get laid. If youve got game and have a certain aura about you it shouldnt be that hard. Its a lot easier ofc if your good looking, but i know many guys who get laid a lot and they are way below average.

wsop, I'm legit curious (aka not tryin to troll you)

I would love to know your definition of "game"

I think you mean more than this, but aorn my perspective of your definition of "game" is "being able to lay a sweet line on a chick within 5 sec of meeting her" and that != my definition.

I would have said the same.

But I may not have an accurate picture in my mind of you because Karak made it sound like you were continuing to lose weight, and that was a long while ago.

I have seen a photo of GcG.

the lowest i got was like 215, i settled in around 225-235 (6ft tall)

yeah this has its limits. i am pretty confident actually, or at least i think i can fake it pretty well in case i'm not confident deep down. at the same time, i am realistic and can't be delusional. i'm pretty sure if i were god's gift to women, i'd get more action than i do. that doesn't mean i go into social interactions thinking "i suck and i'm gonna **** this up and she won't like me cause i'm a pathetic loser." this should make sense, if you need me to clarify, lemme know.

lol why the vote of confidence? you planning to ship me some $ to buy baller clothes or something?

wat! betting against me? loooooooooool

why? what is so gimmicky about jetto? i always thought he was just a normal poster?

as for having ppl tell me how good looking i am - that whole thing would be really weird and i wouldn't be comfortable with it. i understand the desire to have some better idea of what i look like (i always wish i could see certain characters from books) but if you think it through, you'll realize all the awkward spots this puts me and the poster i send a pic to.

No I'm paying Jetto to tell me who he is, and I'm freerolling you striking out for the next 2 weeks,

el d,

i am pretty skeptical of anyone with your type of persona on internet forums. henry eventually won me over (it took him a long time, i hated henry for a while). mittens eventually won me over. they made enough quality posts to earn their reputation. but most of my disliked posters

you've obviously got a legendary reputation around here, but in the posts i've seen (probably less than 2% of them) i haven't been won over. if you (or others) can make a case (including some quality posts, perhaps some 2p2 history that shows how you got your rep) then i'd be more enthusiastic to hear what you think.

He has a subforum named after him.

Pros
El D can cook an insane steak

Cons
I dont like his avatar


also, idk why it would be awkward for someone to see a pic of you. at least you should go to El D route and describe your look and style

I can see the point of not sharing a pic with an entire forum, but sending it to people via pm doesnt seem like a big deal (even to me, and I am pretty private about stuff). IF you really wanna know how you look like and got no idea where you are at look-wise.

It's a little difficult to explain.

He sure as **** ain't normal, but I don't know if there's any poster ITT that I'm applying the word "normal" to.

if you wanna find out what is gimmicky about jetto go to SE

im normal

Meh...have none of you ever been in that situation before where a friend shows you a pic of his girlfriend and she is just nasty? It's a very awkward spot to be in. You kinda go "Yeah dude she's...uh...she's cute. That's uh...great, dude, I'm umm, really, umm, happy for you."

So outlining the options - I send a photo and I'm average looking:

Poster says "dude you've got nothing to worry about you look better than 50% of guys"

I send a picture and I'm below average looking:

courteous poster says "dude you're not that bad looking, you could easily pull girls"
more dickish poster says "yeah, i see what you mean. huh, that's too bad. sorry."

I send a picture and I'm awful looking:

does anyone recall the chuddo fiasco? lol

gimme a quick response someone:

i'm texting this girl that i think likes me, i say i'm going out to party she says i always party, i say something arrogant, she says "oh so you're a hit with the ladies, eh?"

what do i say back?

You admittedly came to mind as a possible exception to the "nobody here is normal" generalization I was making. Then I was afraid that calling you the normal one would in some way validate your sports team choices, so I thought I should just keep everyone under the umbrella of weirdness.