You've asked 3 times and no one has given you an answer (even though that's not true... but I guess our answers weren't good enough). What do you think?

I doubt my own will power, but you're not wrong at the core.

Here's hoping there's no further reason to even mention this situation ITT.

I help you one time, but you ask too many questions, that are basic. You are allowed to make mistakes.

Dont ask her, you should say: We go to restaurant xyz, I pick you up at g am!

Moving back to the loveseat is the death blow.

Okay, fair enough. I forgot the one disclaimer - "Everybody has SOME feelings for the first girl they ever loved UNLESS she turns out to be bat-**** crazy." In my situation, had I met this girl about 2 yrs later when I was more mature, I'd probably be married to her right now (scary).

il martilo the text was fine. ppl are over thinking that

and LJK don't sweat it. just hangout with her as a friend. you'll probably attract her more if you act like your over her anyways. i prefer to hangout with girls more than guys as long as their normal. the problem is finding a normal girl in the first place

Ok so I decided this week I'm going to completely avoid A and B. I'll say hi or respond to polite conversation, but that's it. No real motive here... I am just growing extremely tired/bored of the entire situation as it sits stagnant.

Quick story:

Last night D (my first involvement here and now one my best friends who is aware of the entire A and B situation) is invited to go study with her guy interest/almost boyfriend-ish person at another library. She shows up and A is there with the guy. Things are getting somewhat serious between D and the guy, so I guess that's fine whatever.

So D and I are gchatting (I'm elsewhere at another library) back and forth making fun of A a little bit, talking about D's situation with the guy and other things. We're talking pretty solidly for 45-60 minutes. A keeps trying to clandestinely peek at D's window. Finally A comes around, but D has my gchat window minimized... but it's obv it's me D is gchatting with. A goes away, D keeps gchatting and finally A goes, "wow you are are gchatting a lot tonight" and D just kind of smirks at her.

So today I'm going to lunch with D and some other people. AB come up and I just say hi and keep walking, but they stop D as soon as I'm out of earshot. B (who was NOT there last night) starts asking D, "So I heard you were doing a lot of gchatting last night. What was THAT about?" and A followed up harassing her in a similar fashion. The two of them worked D over trying to get her to spew (what I'm not sure) and D just kept laughing and eventually walked off with me and my group.

WTF AB? What are you doing?

Not that it makes a difference but my actual reply was "haha I'm just kidding, it's totally standard. John XXXX?".

But more importantly this might have revealed a serious leak in my game. TBH, when I have rapport built up with a girl my text game is usually very good. Admittedly when it's with someone I don't know that well I can struggle big time.

(1) That first line was pretty standard issue for me. I can be pretty sarcastic, especially with girls I like. But is that really calling her out? Wouldn't calling her out be like "wtf you crazy stalker bitch am I going to have to get a restraining order?". Granted, the sarcasm does sometimes get me into trouble as it may well have here.

For example, had I added her and she texted me something like that, I would have thought it was funny.

(2) Given the situation, what would have been a better opening? I try to stay away from "hey what's up" as much as I can.

Either way it wasn't a big deal. She's graduating in 3 months anyway and there's plenty more important leads going on.

But I'm more worried about my general behavior as apparently what is "standard" for me in this spot might be a complete spew.

bring up something relevant to the conversation you and she had. remind her why you were interesting. you had to talk about something.

i like fake mass texts too but they get non-responded a lot

Karak, are you sure you're not on some secret MTV or VH1 reality show or something?

in high school i was in a class and someone in the same class mass text everyone. so awkward checking my phone and the guy is like 5 feet away from me.

also lol @ any girl in law school caring about who some other girl IM's

my roommates and i were actually joking just the other night that i should pitch my life as a reality show to MTV

i mean think of all the angles

-karak struggles with his past of broken relationships
-karak struggles with the challenges academically and intellectually of law school
-karak struggles with the decision of whether to attempt to transfer or not

and, best of all

-karak struggles with the drama of the alphabet

we'll call it "Alphabet Injunction"

can i get a valentines day line check?

theres this chick in my class, we have discussion every thursday (i dont see her in lecture, big lecture hall).

we've had class twice and we have done small talk after class both times.

next sunday is of course valentines day.

would something like this be plausible?:

me: what are you up to this weekend?
her: blah blah blah
me: what about on sunday?
her: blah blah blah i usually do hw on sunday or something
me: but its valentines day!
her: something awkward
me: its hard to believe you dont have a date
her: i dunno, blah blah blah
me: well then what is your number, im gonna make sure you do something....

something like that? i feel thats wayyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too abcdefghijk/tml, but im not sure what else to do.

or do you think its just wicked weird to ask a stranger out on valentines day? should i take it slower? i was looking to make it just like "a girl like you deserves a nice valentines day" type thing, make a really good first impression, etc.

just not sure what line to take.

I've never tried it but it seems really weak sauce to do a first date/activity on V-day

go out that night and hit on drunk single women instead

yea i mean i dont see it being the best idea at all, why im wondering if its "plausible" and what a standard line would be that wont overdo it.

first official "date" on valentines day is kinda good imo as long as your thinking about a relationship with the person.

it's prob to strong for the first time hanging out though. i'm using this thread to procrastinate poker. i might as well go and shoot around a little on the court instead.

You totally blew your "cover", although she didnt intend to **** test you (or maybe she did), your response was lame. (dont have any recommendation right now, will chime in if my textbooks enlighten me)

I kind of like this idea for my situation in case I'm completely out of starting topics, but obviously I can only use it once or twice. Does it actually work though?

And I'm still not really understanding the concept of a *** test.

I envy those who can just flip a switch and say, "Okay, I view this girl as a friend now." I'm fine with being friends with any number of girls, but once I view a girl as anything else it's pretty hard to just throw it in reverse, especially as long as she's still single.

Definitely better for my situation to just go cold, be basically polite but stop seeking out chances to hang out with her.

http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/****-test/

I'm over being friends with girls tbh. I live in a house with a bunch of girls and am good friends with all of them, so I can be up front about it I guess. I think saying something along the lines of "I have enough female friends, that's not what I'm looking for" only less cranky-like.

the actual link doesn't match because it can't get past the profanity filter. S^%!-test

Sorry about your luck man. Sometimes you are in the friend zone and you have a shot at getting out and other times there's just nothing you can do. At least you got the information you needed to know without making a terrible situation.

just type in "****" where the **** is in the link



and yeah LKJ... that sucks man. cut her off at the knees. thats just stupid behavior on her part, and she is an attention whore. i would most definitely never spend another night watching a movie with her, and i would try to find anyone to hook up with asap.