last nights pointless TR:
i wasn't in the mood to do anything but this girl who lives pretty far away insisted i had people over because she wanted to drink. i told her everyone's busy and it'd only be 10-15 ppl. she shows up and it's 11 ppl including her and her friend to be exact. she wanted vodka but all we had is beer because the night wasn't anything special.

anyways this is the second time she's drove pretty far to hangout this week and both times we've had absolutely no chemistry. i could care less about chemistry with her because she's not gf material but it makes it weird even talking to her. i kind of gave up on the situation because i'm the kind of person who needs the girl to at least show interest occasionally when i'm with them. so i ended up just going to bed once the other girls left and i didn't even say goodnight or anything to her.

im a sophomore, 19. i really don't know at this point, she just seems like a cool girl with good taste in music, don't know much else as of now. wouldn't mind going out with her though, she doesn't really seem like one-night-stand type.

oh we're the same age. but we sound a lot different because when i think of open mic's i think of a room full of 24yrs old+ all thinking they have some unique perspective on life that they feel is so cool they have to share it with everyone else.

and if i had to vote whether to initiate conversation on facebook i'd vote no. it seems like there's plenty of opportunities to get her # in person down the road.

also standard generic advice for everyone. try to talk to a consistent 4-5 girls at a time that way you never put one on a pedestal

if you have similar tastes in music, just write on her wall and be like "just found this song X, you should check it out i think youd like it"

then she will respond standard "yeah its sweet thanks for that"

then you can open it up from there.

You guys go to school with girls who you think are hot, but like aren't sure? I know a couple girls who are hot, or at least I think so, but no guys ever really hit on them, maybe b/c they are quiet.

huh

if your asking if there's attractive girls in the world that haven't realized it yet and maybe they'll be easy for you to get with, then yes these girls exist. it's very rare though because pretty much all girls get hit on/looked at constantly and therefore we're left with a bunch of girls who really aren't that attractive, who have a horrible personality, and yet still think they're gods gift.

they never get a reality check because even if a few guys are real with them and put them in their place there's plenty of guys who will still feed there ego in hopes to get laid.

it's kind of like the shortstacking problem in poker. if we all played 50bb+ tables there'd be a lot less shortstacking but the problem is there will always be people out there, including myself, who will still play with the regular tables because that's where more fish are.

I'd like to hear a response on a situation I experienced. There is a girl who I think is all of a 10/10 - one of the hottest girls at my university - that I know and have been talking to off and on for a while, but has a boyfriend. This was ironic, but we actually saw each other driving. She calls me while I am literally driving next to her and asks what am I doing and says she hasn't seen me in a while, etc. I agree and we pull over into a shopping center parking lot right there to catch up. It's like 10 PM. Once in the parking lot and she is sitting in my car, I say something about how we should get together for dinner and she says "I'm sorry... but you know I have a b..." and before she completes the sentence I say in a perfect tone, "Well, I really like you." After I say that, she makes eye contact with me and I can't describe her face but she is gazing at me with a smile on and it looks like she really liked what I just said. It seems like we sat like this for 3 seconds. This is where I slip up. Instead of going for it and making out with her right there, I break eye contact and say "and you're really pretty..." while this sounds terrible she actually seemed very flattered and began to laugh.

This is where my question lies: We were in an SUV and there is some considerable room between us. It would have been a long attempt at making out and maybe that's what kept from me doing it. My mind was racing and maybe I was a tad intimidated in those 3 seconds of watching this unbelievably hot girl stare into my eyes. If she has a boyfriend and no interest in breaking up with him/cheating on him, would she pull into an empty parking lot at 10-11 PM? What does that stare into my eyes with an indescribable look mean? Does that mean "I'm waiting for you to kiss me, idiot" ?

The conversation ended smoothly with her saying I'll talk to you tomorrow but I feel like I blew it right then and there by not going in for the kill.

you almost certainly could have kissed her, but obviously any long term potential with this girl is hamstrung by the fact that she would prob cheat on you if she cheats on her current bf

Well, she hasn't yet though. If she did, I would look at it like she wasnt happy with her old boyfriend and I came along and lured her away. Although that hasn't happened yet either. With one of the better looking girls I've literally ever seen in my life, I'm not worried yet about what would happen if I were in a relationship with her. I'd cross that bridge when I come to it.

I think if you were going to make a move that was without a doubt your best shot. That said, Karak is correct x 1 million.

To furyshade-- this.

That's what I thought. I set it up about as well as I could, but just couldn't make the move. Oh well.

*Cliff Notes at the bottom*
update on this girl:
last night i had ppl over at my house, which i wrote a post about itt as well about another girl. when texting ppl to come the girl from the quoted post above was one i hit up. she said [my friend] & [his gf/her roommate] both said she can't go there. this was totally random and out of the blue. i found out later that night that all 3 got in a little argument but it was resolved by the next day (today).

i had no intentions of talking to her again unless we happened to see each other in person. then today at like 5pm i get a phone call from her. goes pretty much like this:

her: where are you?
me: uhmm.. on my couch?! the right side of it to be specific
her: why aren't you here
me: wtf why would i be there?
her: [my friend] is over why aren't you
me: uhh he went to get firewood then he's coming back here to eat with all of us
her: nooo, he is but he stopped by here for a second
me: well he didn't tell me and you didn't tell me so how am i supposed to know
her: you should just assume
me: lol, if you want me to come over be a big girl and tell me
her: no not anymore, it's fine whatever.
me: lol ok ttyl

anyways if you read the conversation you can tell she's a special breed for sure and at this point i assume she loves when guys are sprung off her but if you really want to get her you have to treat her like ****

a couple hours later my friend is going to her apartment to spend the night with his gf so i take the opportunity to go along. i make up some backup plan that i have something to do with my family tomorrow and since my parents live right by their apartment it works out. i show up unannounced to her and she's basically loving it. obviously it feeds her ego but at the same time i'm acting like she's no one important when talking to her.

the night goes really well with all of us watching greys anatomy lol. no awkward silences or anything. people start crashing and she's getting ready for bed, well actually like getting in bed,
me: so are you going to make me sleep on the couch at my parents or am i spending the night here
her: immediately says "what?" (even though i said it nice and clear)
me: i repeat it
her: idc do what you want
me: well it's up to you
her: idc i'm going to sleep

at this point i'm like cool she probably wants me to like fully commit myself and make a move and get off on denying me or it'll work because she's got problems. either way she's 21 and i'm 19 and she's playing dumb games. so i end it and leave. everything went smooth on saying goodbye, etc. i'm pretty sure she's on her period but i still think she would have done mostly everything the same regardless.

cliff's:
- girl most likely wants me to put her on a pedestal just so she can deny me
- this makes me really want to **** her more than other girls just to put her in her place

side notes:
- everyone should rate this thread 5 stars in hopes of keeping it alive
- i post way to much of my daily life on 2p2 when at least 5 irl ppl know my screen name

From reading that, I can tell I wouldn't be able to stand that girl. The conversation with you and her on the phone is everything I hate about women. They have no desire to make sense. She's asking you why you aren't at her apartment with your friend(without anyone telling you) like you were doing something wrong. Once she said "you should just assume" I would have said, so I should just show up at your apartment at random times each day hoping my friend is there? Even that would be okay if she just was really interested in you and just wanted you desperately at her apartment, but then the "idc i'm going to sleep" thing after all of that is annoying as hell.

im pretty sure i'd rather sit at home and poke toothpicks through my eyes than spend >30 seconds in a room with this girl, assuming she is allowed to talk

then you're a sucker

From you're reconstructed transcript it would seem that she isn't as interested as you think she is. Either way, I guess I'd pass..

Hahaha wow what a biatch.

We agree to disagree. Not every girl who cheats on her boyfriend and then breaks up with him is guaranteed to cheat in every relationship of her life. Suppose her boyfriend is a douche and treats her terribly? Maybe they already weren't talking when she "cheats" on him. If she breaks up with him immediately because of unhappiness in the relationship, then I don't see the problem

Hey again guys

I met this girl on facebook. Shes not really the type of girl i go for., but her personality is nice and im attracted to her. I added her a while ago from one of my friends, but only started talking to her this sunday. After talking to her for a couple of days (on facebook chat) I finally got her number yesterday.
I spoke to her on the phone today but just for 5 minutes talking about the snow and college lol, But she promised to call me tonight.

Now my question is should i ask her out to meet up?? Or is that kinda creepy since i only know her from facebook? should i wait till we have more conversations?... She also liked a lot of my pictures on my facebook which kinda tells me she thinks im attractive.

So should i ask her out to meet up when we speak or should i wait?

if she's dumb enough to stay in a relationship with a boyfriend that treats her like **** then she's probably not a huge keeper. that said i still say pursue it. obviously just don't trick yourself into falling in love or making this girl your whole world.

i cheated on my first relationship and would never again so i think ppl really can change. i've also "fallen in love" (who knows if it was real, at least it felt real) with someone who had hugee problems, none of which i knew about going into the relationship, and everything was great until we ended it. even though we ended it on good terms her insecurities came out and she kind of put me through hell until i was finally over her. basically i'm just saying to be cautious.

it'd be good if you had something planned this weekend to invite her too. girls get the "hey whats up, how have you been? we really need to hangout" line like daily from different guys.

Go out with your mutual friends and invite her to come along.

Talking to girls youve never met in real life on facebook is already creepy. But if shes still talking to you, then basically do whatever you want. If shes not creeped out already then I doubt she will be if you ask her to hang out.

Talking to girls you've never met in real life on facebook is not really creepy lol. Im 18 and shes 18 thats what kids our age do.. Yea i'll wait for a while before i ask her though.