I found an interesting video on youtube about getting out the friend zone. What they basically said is you have to be a douche bag tool to get out the friend zone.. Is this what girls really want?. Ive been going with the cupcake sweet boy lines for a while now and i think this is where i am going wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iadUzmV9vCM

This is a pretty interesting topic with many thoughts behind it, so here are mine...

First off, no matter what your mom tells you, 'sweet' guys do not often get laid, and when they do its generally in spite of themselves, not because they went about things in a +EV manner.

But as to your main question, before getting into the 'friend zone' I say just try to avoid it completely. Now this aspect doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be a douche bag. It can work, but it is not needed if that's not in your personality. On the other hand, you can't simply be a nice guy for her to rest her shoulder on. There has to be some aspect of cocky, confident, non-needy that you should display in order to play your cards right.

I'm sure that we have all met this kind of guy in our musings about school. Yes, it may come off like he is a dbag, but then you open your eyes and realize that he has both men and women around him, gravitating to his conversation and presence. He jokes around with women, doesn't take serious crap from men, and lets the minor stuff roll off his back. He isn't being mean or an 'azzhole' in the typical dbag fashion, but you can tell that he doesn't exactly have a halo around his head, trying to please everyone. That is what attracts women the most, especially if you are looking to a girl as a potential gf/significant other. Also, this works too even if you are just looking to get laid, but a little more sexual escalation has to go along with that.

Finally though, once you are in the 'friend zone' I truly believe that the only way out is to be more or less a dbag, and this may or may not work. First impressions are critical when meeting anyone, and you don't want yours to be the 'nice guy' who she can 'talk' to, when you are really looking to get into her pants. Yea, it sucks, but it's generally true.

You used the phrase "Hella Bad", wtf bro

Also you remind me somewhat of me fwiw...a lot of different things to it too....

how tall are you?

wussed out again

karak you pussy, at least wait until 5 minutes pass before you edit so I can see the OP

tbh i'll probably post it eventually, just not thsi week. im so on edge already with everything that's happened w/ my roommate, law school and poker and after my monkey tilt spew session last night im prob a bit too vulnerable to any trolling right now. i'd likely rage tilt and spew all over the place worse than i even normally do haha.

lol i didnt know we had this power... nice... just discovered it.

just got back home. i'm drunk as **** today was a huge fail but i blame it on the fact i literally have 0 mexican male friends and not very many close female mexican friends. i got drunk at a friends place watching the suns-spurs game, ate a really good free pizza, arranged a booty call for tomorrow, and flirted with an old hookup who just got done dating an ex roommate. i'm 100% convinced she would just hookup with me in hopes that it got back to my ex roommate. i wouldn't be breaking any moral codes since i hookedup with her before he ever did but meh she's like a 6 so i only start caring about it when alcohol is in my body

i'm from northern california what can i say
6'2-6'3

from the skimming I did it was bascially...I think BG is in love with me and so does yeota

I was out with Cradle Rob Chick yesterday and there was a commercial almost like this on TV, only it was a dude using the thing. She looked at it, laughed, and then said "no romo?" Also she has nice titties.

Translation - this girl is perfect.

edit - not the video I thought it was. I thought this was the video w/ the workout tool that makes it look like you're jerking off. You know what vid I mean.

Need more pics to evaluate this, last pic didn't illustrate your assertion very well

They looked pretty good to me in it, but I'm sure as **** not going to vote against the call for more pics.

I mean, I think the other pic was alright. They're D's though.

Sadly, this pic is totally safe for work.



BTW, say you have a girl over (specifically one with nice titties). If she goes to the bathroom, shower, whatever, at some point during the night, I think it's fair game to inspect the bra. I got busted last night. It was actually very very funny.

Still not a very good view.

Inspecting the bra though? WTF?

Thinly veiled "there was a bra on my floor last night" brag imo


I'll work on the pics. She actually has very few photos on fb. Wish I had taken some yesterday though, motorboatin sonofabitch.

Hit that until she can't move. She could use ~5-10lbs (left arm looks freaky skinny in that picture) but if she got that in order there would be some serious dowant.jpg going on.

Give her a cheeseburger or 10.

Shes ok about a 5/10 not really my type, too skinny for me.

lol wsopmichael lol......lolololol....thats all...we have already established your taste in girls is different to say the least

Honestly guys I think wsopmichael is very likely a troll account, but I can't really exactly confirm it, so take it with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.

he is right that girl is ugly. that or terrible pic

I don't think I'd call her ugly solid 7/10 imo, but she definitely could afford to add a few pounds

she's pretty much the definition of plain jane. seems like the perfect girl to friend zone yourself with (maybe hit it first a couple times) then hangout a lot and hook up with her friends.

she's attractive enough to do things and be seen with in public, but ugly enough to where she's probably had to develop a decent personality