Wow you guys are really stuck up. I would like to see what you think is a 8.

lol wsopmichael ill agree that the people in this board generally rate girls a lot more critically than they should (see: OOT scale)

but that girl is not attractive, sorry.

Lol i guess with have different tastes. She looks fine to me.

5 is average. Maybe I should put her as a 5. I dunno. NOT an 8 though on my scale. She is fat man... Sorry.

/hating

Ya she is pretty much my definition of average, maybe even a little lower(so a 4.5-5 imo)....I would prob **** her if she made it easy enough but I wouldnt actively try to get with her nor think of approaching her at a party unless there was absolutely no girls there...

FAT wtf? lol. Over here we call that THICK. wow you guys have high standards lol

Shes a 7.5/10 on a good day shes easily an 8 imo.

iyo

I looked for an OOT scale thread but my searching is bad and couldn't find one.

I know that I've added a few points to a girl's score before in my eyes when I had a thing for her. Now I look back and think she was nowhere near the rating I gave her. Take a step back and re-evaluate. +1 to those saying leave her alone. She's nothing special.

I would like to see this OOT scale thread too. i will re evaluate thanks 4 da advice.

I think you need to evaluate yourself, not the girl. Why are you so desperate that you are considering breaking a very serious law, risking jail-time and jeopardizing the rest of your life and any type of professional career you may try to pursue? I mean when you consider all those possibilities together, the absurdity of your proposed line of action is overwhelming.

Don't even consider her physical attractiveness. It does not even matter to be honest.

All the Ms. OOT threads.

People rate absolutely doable girls as 4s because they got pointy elbows (probably the most used line on this forum when it comes to girls).


wsopmichael, why do you feel the need to justify the attractiveness of a girl on an online message board?

and seriously stay away from a 15year old. even thinking of it makes me wanna vomit.

oh and guys, stop bashing 18 year olds.

I would seriously ask S, if you guys are actually really close than I doubt she would mind as her sister is 20 and very capable of doing what she wants......I would imagine most girls would not really care, if it was your bff guys sister its prob a worse situations the whole bros v hoes code comes in but even then I would still ask but wouldnt expect nearly as positive results...

Also if S is liek your "Sister" and you hook up with your "Sister"s sister is that incest?

Don't ask right away. Just see how things go with the little sister and if it looks like it's heading that direction just pull S aside and be like "listen things are going really well with your sister, would you be really upset if something happened there?" Don't ask her before hand like "plz to be letting me bang you sister."

If things go badly with the younger sister it's probably better to have not brought it up with S way before.

ya never really thought about this, but another note is that S more than likely has thought of this and if she truly objects she will prob just tell you, but still test the waters and see if its something thats probable

Haha...goofy, much love my friend. I just read that thread now that you posted this link. I identify too well with the "refuse to quit a bad situation" thing. Props for being able to laugh at yourself by posting that link.

Okay how to close at a party with a cute chick you've been occasionally getting alcohol, but ensuring shes not just using me only for that declining to get her what she wanted at times, but shes had a boyfriend (now single) and prolly DTF.

Example: Partying in my room, at my party, smoking pot (bad idea over think things/b-tch out), close to end of normal parties for our apt 2-3am. Shes sitting next to me and keeps saying shes really drunk and tired. I kinda freeze up but have some touching going on between us. The dilemma was the other people in my room too still listening to music (playing music from my room).

Should I just go for the aggressive move on her (not prude, would make out in front of other people) showing that Im not scared to kiss her in front of people and how do you suggest asking people to leave so I can shut the door and free up some alone time??

if there's one thing i learned its that girls will almost always makeout with you if you just go for it. they may not be into it or want to necessarily do it again but spurr of the moment they will. i wouldn't shut the door i would just go for it infront of everyone

also i own that shirt in your avatar so hollerrr

No, you never want to put a girl in a position where she feels like a slut. Ever. The last thing she is going to want to do is start making out in front of her friends and your friends. Aside from the fact that it's plain awkward.

always thinking like a lawyer...why dont u ever think like a horny virgin 15 year old boy?

Maybe because he is 25, along with the fact that the person asking about the 15 year old is 18. No one is 15 in this thread. Why would we want to think like 15 year olds? We'd get no where with the ladies if that were the case, ldo.

toomanyletters takes umbrage.

Karak's logic>yours imo - srrry

My definition (and I think what most people around me IRL would say)
- I don't even mention making out tbh. I'm not generally a super gossipy person anyway, but it's really just not my style
- Hooking up = more than making out (generally not with other people in the room, but there's always an exception lol) but less than sex

If I bang one out with a chick, it depends. If I'm just with the guys (and I include some of my female friends in there. No they are not trannies), I'll say "yeah, we banged two out and then fell asleep" or something like that. If it's mixed company, or like my mom or something, I'll say "yeah she stayed over."

In before I get made fun of for being honest about my sex life with my parents.

Double post, w/e

+1,000 bazillion to this. As long as you aren't getting an awful vibe from a girl and you aren't in an awkward location, you can probably go for it. I have said some of the cheesiest **** of all time right before swooping in to kiss a girl. See exhibits A-D...

- "Well, this needs to happen."
- "Is it time for me to return the favor?" (she had just brought over a textbook I was borrowing)
- Went in for the kill...paused... "....YUP." Went back in for it.
- "I can't believe it's taken me this long." "For what?" then *POW* right in the kisser.


fwiw, all 4 worked. You can suck at speaking to women and still close. You just have to convey confidence and make them laugh/feel comfortable.

hahahaha A+ vintage ive used the "yup" thing before too. so awesome imo lol